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I worked at Daedalic about 10 years ago, when they still made mainly point and click adventures. I was an intern there (completely unpaid) for about half a year. In that time the company was about 130 people big and 60-70% were interns (some payed a minimal amount of cash but also many completely unpaid). The owner became a multimillionaire some years later when he sold the company to Narcon. That should be everything you need to know about that company...
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Been in the industry for about 15 years now and have had a similar experience early into my career. Almost same situation where there was a lot of hype for the game, we were underfunded, feature creep, work without pay, and small young team (the higher ups were long time veterans). There was this "carrot on the stick" mentality and "sunk cost fallacy" where you "just have to get the game out and you'll get your money back", but it never happened.
I'm at a great company now and I also teach game dev part time.
What I've learned from my experiences have been:
- the games industry is an amazing place and community
- CEOs/Execs should have some programming experience OR they need to trust their tech lead when it comes to features and implementations and include them in any decision making
- CEOs/Execs should not be designers OR they need to fully understand the consequences of "feature creep" (or have a producer/tech lead to keep them in check)
- sprints, milestones, and schedules are very important, if you work at a company without them either fight to implement or find another company (hobby dev not as strict)
- if you are not paid or are forced to do long periods of crunch time, find another company, your health and safety are more important
- a good company is a mutual relationship, they treat you right and you treat them right, you are not working for them, you are working together
When I was in school, I was told all the "horror stories" of the industry. I stuck around a company far too long because I thought "this is the industry, if I leave I'm just going to run into the same problem". This is not true and as I teach, I share the stories and the highlights of my career to encourage people to have same, if not better, experiences in the industry.
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I worked at Pixar in the 1990's. A majority of us on Toy Story 2 were iniured with RSI from the stress. (I heard an unverified rumor thst OSHA designated Pixar as a hazardous workplace.)
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I'm so confused why people thought Daedelic was capable of AAA game development. Their most well known titles are a series of hand drawn point and click adventures called Deponia. Gollum is exactly the kind of game a team going from 2D hand drawn, point and click adventures to 3D would make.
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It's easy to say "coulda shoulda woulda" but I think if I were tasked with making a AAA game with a 15 million budget, I would do what Ninja Theory did with Hellblade, which was a 10 million budget: Cut the team down to the people most crucial to getting it done, cut the scope of the game to something very linear and doable, and if I can't get a bigger budget, try to negotiate on the deadline. Hellblade should be the standard with which to make a AAA game with a AA budget.
It sounds like the people in charge were so busy panicking, they didn't think how to work smarter not harder, and they took it out on the people under them.
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"don't lead out of fear."
that's solid advice right there.
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This is partly why its best to just become an indie. Many studios, especially AAA suffer from this sort of culture. It shows in the quality of their games sadly. Creativity needs autonomy and freedom of expression.
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We need a better definition of what AAA means. Tons of start-up studios are calling their project 'AAA' with no frame of reference. To me, AAA simply means big budget, like in the millions. I asked a recruiter for a really big company what he thought AAA meant since he was asking for only AAA devs on his job listings, and he said it was about working with large teams. I'm pretty sure working on large teams can be done in the Indie space and even out-of-industry. The public seems to think it means a certain quality of game, but along with that being subjective, releases don't seem to match this expectation: Gollum case-and-point.
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I like that youâre keeping us updated on the news of the gaming industry, Thomas. I like this type of content. Thank you so much! (First btw)
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Their apology letter was made by an AI by the publisher Nacon without the information of the Daedalic studio.
Also whoever thinks that $16M budget nets to an AAA game needs a reality check for being the root cause of this game to launch.
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Lmfao love that you included Vinnyâs piss baby objectives
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Hey Thomas I wanted to join your class do you do payment arrangements? I've been solo learning for about 4 months and I wanna do your class but dont have the full grand
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Hey just want to say thank you for all the content you do a really good job ,
You deserve more subs , very inspiring and helpful đ
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Love the news updates!
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I have been wondering with all these stories about the game dev industries, what the future candidates should learn or do to avert these unfortunate situations?
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Informative Video Mr Thomas, Please will you make videos about gameloft? Whats was their success making console quality ripoff games on mobile? The createf 9/10 years ago? Please make a video about it : )
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The games industry is a shitshow
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I was so excited for this game to release
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Regardless of toxicity of budget, they should have asked the question-"why would someone want to play as Gollum in the first place?".
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