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Date of upload: Jan 30, 2022 ^^
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This video is so important. It was the perceived “secular” nature of Buddhism that attracted me to it. But it’s the spiritual aspects of buddhism and other dharma paths that have actually been the catalyst of growth for me. Buddhism is a religion, and that shouldn’t stop anyone from learning about it.
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Wait till this guy hears about Tibetan Buddhism.
No, but seriously though, as a Theravadin Buddhist I feel that on the scale between “Philosophy” and “Religion”, Vajrayana Buddhism shifts more towards the religious end. I can understand why people could argue why Buddhism is purely a religion based on its esoteric and spiritual ritualistic practices, to the point that a parallel towards the Abrahamic religions could be made.
For my sect of Theravada, personally I don’t fully dismiss the religious supernatural aspect of Buddhism, but more so placed more emphasis on the philosophical aspect of it. In my opinion, Siddhartha would’ve preferred me to just sit down meditate and practice the 8 fold path rather than waste my time dwelling on the supernaturals that is encapsulated in the Pali Canon. To me, the supernatural is just an aspect of Buddhism that shouldn’t be fully dismissed as a whole but should also not be emphasised as the core of the religion.
To me, it sits on somewhere in the middle between a true philosophy and a true religion. I can easily give reasons on why Buddhism is a philosophy just as giving counter arguments to why it is a religion. I obviously don’t agree with the videos title as it fully dismisses the philosophical aspects and reduces to a purely religious ideology. I get why he’s doing it though. Putting a more “extreme” statement as the title targets the more “hypocritical” audience who fully neglects all supernatural aspects of Buddhism and reduces it to a whole “scientific” philosophy, and therefore concludes it is better than the Abrahamic religions in this regards.
Obviously, I have my biases and feels that the world would be a slightly better place if we have more Buddhists, therefore dare I say it’s “better” than other religions, but it wouldn’t be on the basis that my religion is “purely philosophical” and “scientific” and “realistic” (and therefore better), but more so because Buddhism has a better and a more greater emphasis on pragmatic philosophical ideologies than the rest, and have a refined philosophical way of life towards non violence that I am personally biased towards based on my life experiences.
But at the end of the day, I’m just one guy out of 8 billion. Who really cares what I think. I’ll be glad if one person reads my comment this far. I’m not gonna force my religious views on anyone. That’s just morally wrong in my opinion and everyone should have the freedom to choose what religion to believe in, if any. I’m an advocate of critical thinking and not blindly following. As a wise philosopher once said (paraphrased):
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it, rumoured by many, written in your religious books, passed down by tradition, or enforced by the authority of teachers and elders, but believe it only after observation, careful analysis, critical thinking” -Siddhartha Gautama, Kamala Sutta (the real quote is different from that, I just wrote what I remembered from the top of my head, so I apologise for that)
Thanks for reading ❤
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A lot of the atheist I've encountered that follow some form of Buddhism will acknowledge the supernatural aspects of the religion. They simply claim you don't need to have an active belief in that aspect of Buddhism for the practical pieces of the religion to have a positive impact on ones life.
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4:26 to say that Siddharta was the first Buddha clearly shows that the person needs to study way deeper into Buddhism before write comment about it.
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Background: I was raised conservative protestant Christian. converted to Buddhism, slowly realized that I am an atheist but still continue to meditate and attend temple services.
My priest asserts that Buddhism underwent huge changes as it was transmitted from India to China, Korea and Japan, and is undergoing changes of equal or greater magnitude as it takes root in the Americas. (He is an ordained monk of the Seon school, Chogye order, from Korea.)
Anyways, I enjoyed this video.
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I've always regarded myself as an atheist or non-religious believer. But I have just come to the realization that I'm essentially a Buddhist, for most of my life I've followed the teachings of Buddha without even realizing it, though I don't believe in the supernatural beings or weird supernatural forces. I dedicate 1 hour of my day to meditate, to follow the 4 pillars of Buddhism in some way.
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While I agree with your overall argument, I think it is a little inaccurate to connect Mahayana in China and Japan to Tibet. Mahayana actually arrived in China from Central Asia. Tibetan Buddhism mostly remained on the plateau before spreading north into Mongolia in the 16th century. It is sometimes referred to as Vajrayana to distinguish it from Mahayana.
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Excellent episode. Finally someone gets it straight about Buddhism, but more than that, calls out the current pop-belief system for its biases. Will we always just react to our culture’s old inequities, or will we understand our past, and thereby ourselves in the process. This episode is one step toward that possibility.
Thank you!
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As a then-28-yr.-old atheist, I went to the Zen center in the city where I live (Texas city that isn’t Austin so there was only one Zen center) a few times. The meditation sessions on weekday evenings appealed to me… but then I went to a Saturday morning Zen session. It all unraveled for me there because of the chanting and singing and “dharma lesson” and other practices that made it very clear to me that I had simply stumbled into another religion.
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Thanks for this video. I'm what you may call a traditional Buddhist convert. And, as much as I respect and learn with secular Buddhists, I have always felt uneasy with how people tend to ignore and devalue the religious aspects of our tradition. I think that, even if one doesn't have a belief of supernatural aspects of Buddhism, they shouldn't act like they understand more of Buddha's teachings than the people who are maintaining said teachings in traditional environments. I believe things would be better if we could see things as they are and treat each other with respect.
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This is a very important video. I believe at least in the west, Buddhism has been bastardized by the bourgeoisie (not in the Marxist context) and has since been used for meditation and nothing else, eliminating all the aspects of Buddhism that would go against their secular search for peace of mind: the concept of reincarnation etc. Seems that the Buddhism has been stripped down to not only the level of philosophy but to the level of self help.
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Love the channel? Want early access and other stuff? Check out the Patreon page 💸 Patreon: patreon.com/thelivingphilosophy ⌛ Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 03:59 Why People Think Buddhism Isn’t a Religion 06:23 Theravadin Buddhism 08:43 Mahayana Buddhism 11:00 Buddhism and Violence 12:28 Final Thought
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