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Can we do without organised religion? Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogue 81
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Churches are in decline, certainly in the western world. People tend not to turn to a priest for spiritual insight or advice. But is a lived relationship with the sacred and wisdom traditions denuded as organised religion disappears? In this Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogue, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon talk about religious institutions for good and ill. Rupert picks up on a new book by Alison Milbank, Once and Future Parish, to ask how churches can maintain connection with the seasons, place and community, and speak to the whole of our humanity in its rituals and rites of passage. The conversation explores why many people are wary of organised religion, and are inclined to treat religion more as a threat than a visionary promise. The perils of a privatised spiritual questing are set alongside the paucity of contemporary church life, though if it can be hard to live with organised religion, it seems also hard to live fully without it.

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Dr Rupert Sheldrake, PhD, is a biologist and author best known for his hypothesis of morphic resonance. At Cambridge University he worked in developmental biology as a Fellow of Clare College. He was Principal Plant Physiologist at the International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics and From 2005 to 2010 was Director of the Perrott-Warrick project, Cambridge.

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Dr Mark Vernon is a writer and psychotherapist. He contributes to programmes on the radio, writes and reviews for newspapers and magazines, gives talks and podcasts. His books have covered themes including friendship and God, ancient Greek philosophy and wellbeing. His new book, out August 2019, is "A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling and the Evolution of Consciousness". He has a PhD in ancient Greek philosophy, and other degrees in physics and in theology, and works as a psychotherapist in private practice. He used to be an Anglican priest.

Mark's latest book is...
A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling, and the Evolution of Consciousness
www.markvernon.com/books/a-secret-history-of-chris…
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@johnkraner2892

2 months ago

Very illuminating and uplifting, Rupert - thank you.

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@maryhitchcock-nn1nm

6 months ago

Super happy to see and hear from you Rupert! I have been checking daily for another upload wanting to hear what is on your mind in this mayhem world. And here you are with Mark! Now, on to the conversation. Thank you so much in advance!

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@timothyraywalls7261

5 months ago

It is far better to have a personal inner religion "a God-conscious connection," than an organized secular and godless church.

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@M_K171

6 months ago

Such a wonderful discussion.

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@dwifred472

4 months ago

Such an engaging conversation. It felt like you guys represented the mystical side and organized side very well.

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@flaviogago

6 months ago

Very interesting conversation. Thanks πŸ™

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@johnkraner2892

2 months ago

And a very interesting perspective from you, Mark - also, thank you.

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@patricksee10

6 months ago

Great conversation gentleman, it is much appreciated

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@jasnajazz

6 months ago

Organized religion, despite its flaws, provides hope to people. They need to believe that someone is watching over them and will help them in difficult times.

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@samrowbotham8914

6 months ago

I really enjoy these dialogues my take on it we would all be better off without organised religion. Organised religion divides us.

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@artandculture5262

6 months ago

Academics can abandon everything they like to, however current events show it not a realistic goal.

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@wybuchowyukomendant

2 months ago

Honestly, looking at how catholic church operates nowadays, and how it deals with it`s... "love for children" here in Poland, I`d love to say we don`t need any organized form of a religion, because, at least in the roman catholic example, it operates like a corrupted corporation. But community sure is important, now people build communities around everything but for older folks church was THE community. In my city more people go for a communal trash picking on Sunday afternoon than to the church tho.

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@thedandelionranger

6 months ago

It’s a dramatic return to community values, singing and dancing, culminating extravagantly as a tidal wave of radical world wide environmentalism

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@sirrobinofloxley7156

6 months ago

1911 saw the end of the Poor Laws, the Poor Laws being instigated by Henry Vlll after he sacked the monasteries. The 1911 National Insurance Act changed the jurisdiction of the parishes of the churches as the first jurisdiction. Basically, the National Government made themselves the 'Pro Patria', rather than Pro Patria meaning for the country, now it meant for the government. Or, at least for the DWP, which we see with the Welfare State gobbling the equity of the People up, in the form of their posterity and prosperity. Between the Calvinists of the aristocracy, which includes the Royal Family, and the alliance with Bolshevism, through the First, Second and Third International, then the State have replaced themselves as the God and as Calvinism professes, no one, except Calvinists, can be 'saved'.

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@user-yg2ot1ui1z

5 months ago

Even when the church operates at 10% ,it still is more than what others offer.

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@waleskaelektra17

6 months ago

Thankfully πŸ™πŸ™Œ

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@jtzoltan

6 months ago

Christianity has always done some of its best work (in my opinion) during times of "coming apart" and when it's the underdog... that can inspire some of the greatest levels of determination, good works, philosophical crescendos... when its under pressure of suppression or negative attack on it, the smaller core of believers really cone out with the best arguments in favour of it, while many of the wolves in sheeps clothing have defected to whatever the public considers the ascendant moral system so they can have the goodwill and get the furthest with their virtue signaling, leaving only those in Christianity who are convinced, who try to do the right thing noatter what others think. Finally, if people think the world was dysfunctional and backwards with Christianity at the center, wait until they see what happens when the modern alternatives take its place... we're watching that now: all Sam Harris-esque illusions that we'd have a golden age of science and rationality likely go out the window and we get chaos, liscenciousness, other forms of intolerance fhat are worse. I do agree that too much Christianity im society without rationality to counterbalance it can and has done harm (especially again, with the wolves in sheeps clothing). Having the correct balance does good though and I jooe we will see this return one day

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@aanii2878

6 months ago

Seek and you shall find, right? How many of the clergy, or the masses following the pharisees, have ever actually sought? I am speaking of ALL of the mainstream religions; priests, rabbis, sheikhs, etc...? Those that have truly sought see right through these cult leaders that are purely agenda driven. And those that begin to truly seek start to realize that something's not quite right about what these preachers are preaching (a lack of heart and soul). πŸ™ PeaceπŸ™

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@dougney3026

6 months ago

Hello from Virginia my friend's πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Great Channel πŸ‘

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@sacredguineapig9397

5 months ago

The power of "the Christ" is his ability to live on in the present through the hearts of men, in the past as a historically significant figure, and the future through the second coming. Sounds like a holy trinity. I don't subscribe to it, but gotta admit it's an all encompassing character study.

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