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This is also the first episode in Athens and also with the new camera so plenty of changes afoot! The majority of the video is talking about my own thoughts on Q3 and why I think it's really important for us to study this deeper.
As ever thanks for watching, thanks for the support and any thoughts insights or feedback I'd love to hear from you down in the comments.
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⌛ Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction: Welcome to Athens
2:44 Why it Matters: A Useful Map
4:29 Why Q3 Fascinates Me
5:01 Jung as a Q3 Thinker
6:59 Q3 and Continental Philosophy
9:06 Is Collective Consciousness Possible
13:59 Conspiracies and Witch Hunts as Failures of Consciousness
15:57 Archetypes Memes as Collective Forces
18:07 The Difficulty with Studying Q3
19:35 Are Humans Capable of Complexity Science?
20:10 Conclusion
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Date of upload: Mar 13, 2022 ^^
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Top Comments of this video!! :3
Would absolutely love to see you explore the Q3 space more, especially your points about whether we’re capable of comprehending it or forging agentic complex relations with it. I’ve come to prefer the term “Noosphere” for it – seems to help me wrap my mind around it and relate to it appropriately as an individual member of the biosphere.
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Enjoy listening to you strides through questions spanning multiple domains.
Just one drop in the bucket here ... but when I was running biololgy labs for non-biology undergrads (Temple University Japan) ... one way I got around Cartesian dualitity as necessary for teasing out correlations in experiments was to reconcile my more non-dualistic mind-set by emphasizing that Cartesian duality was never meant to be an insight into metaphysics, but rather a heuristic ideal to help weed out personal biases from patterns emerging through the scientific process. As some of the students were bright, but in other domains, I emphasized science as a problem solving process, but one that was methodical and slowed down so as to minimize those personal biases not relevant to the immediate problems we are attempting to solve. As an undergrad course, we rarely touched on how science fits into other domains, but at least tried to overlap it enough so that a few caught the hint that science used to be called 'natural philosophy' for good reason. Alas, as typical of most institutions, few colleagues and no administration could have cared less.
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I found you today. I clicked right away on the previous episode and now I am hooked. Very interesting perspective about the 4Q .
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I really like this format with your analysis and would view! We're here with you! It's really fun to watch you blaze this path!
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Thanks man changing it up, love what your doing!
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I just wanted to praise you for how open you are with your thoughts. The four quadrant model really saved me as a painter and writer. I'm experimenting with it to develop themes ,motifs and symbols that I can use to teach design .
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Very nice to hear your thoughts and reflections. I like your range of awareness about all that you referred to and I liked your inferences and questions about what might be possible in terms of hiveminds.
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Love this so much!!! Definitely keep posting. Keep philosophy alive!
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I like what you said at the beginning of the video about the mythology of Athena and Poseidon and how Athens struggled to chose who represented them and ultimately these two sides of them remained in conflict. It makes me think that their collective conscience was unconscious to a lesser degree than ours is. Makes me think that the mythology served as tool to bring the collective into the light.
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Glad for your success, not just because it helps you, but because it provides some evidence there is a sizable audience for philosophy on YouTube.
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Interesting discussion of Quadrants. I came in blown away with the UL, because I wasn't aware of stage theories of consciousness, but the social dimension seems even more alien to us. This was thought-inspiring. Thanks.
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Really helpful video! Helps me orient some of these concepts. Just starting to understand the q3 thinking, the call out to if AI could help really helped me grok a part of it!
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16k subscribers! Woohooooo! Good job!
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In Wilber's SES just befor he introduces the Quadrants (the core of his Wilber 4 model) he introduces Immanuel Kant and his 3 Critiques of reason and then Jurgen Habermas who he really encourages one to read (Theory of Communicative Action & Philosophical Discourse of Modernity are in the bibliography). The Philosopher Jurgen Habermas is instrumental to the Quadrants aspect of Ken Wilber's AQAL model. =)
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What a relief to find that everything I've been reading (and feared was a result of my curiousity leading me down rabbit holes) can actually be mapped onto one integral model - but then again, "everything everyone knows, is only a model" (Donella Meadows). I just hadnt found the right model until now - thanks
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This is immensely interesting 👀👀👀
As far as I'm concerned, dedicate entire channel to this pursuit. This video made me subscribe instantly
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Q3 rant is necessary, I appreciated it. Really digging where you’re exploring. Seems to me that individuals in Q1 are the leaders in this idea of collective consciousness in Q3. But this is also the problem in Q3. It’s like there’s no single queen bee but many, but that is a property of Q3, the sovereignty of the individual in the collective consciousness. That’s why the collective seems so much more primitive, why it’s just slower to evolve. So many variables and inputs. The Meme concept is another paradigm. Is it a key to understanding or a problem to be rationalized away? Is the collective (if it exists) the Meme? It’s an interesting thought experiment worth consideration, kind of like, “if this were true what would it mean?” Communication seems to be the limiting factor in Q3 development. Ideas being readily accessible is one thing (which we’re definitely better at) but ideas being considered much less accepted is the crux. There’s that sovereignty variable that’s such a wild card. Regardless, thoroughly enjoying your exploration, and dare I say respectfully, struggle with the Q3 paradigm. A friend commented on my book, “It’s a pleasure to watch you spin like a top through the landscape of the incarnate.” A sentiment I share whole heartedly to you and your work. Excellent work my friend, can’t wait to hear more about your take on consciousness. I love it very much because of your honesty with yourself and here with us even if you don’t care for your own findings:)
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I would like see an episode for each quadrant...thanks!
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Yes! I think you are on an interesting path here. The Q3 quadrant is really only perceptible because if the mental technology that was invented before. As those technologies continue to evolve (AI and ML), perhaps they too will give us new insight into the relationships of this quadrant. This is the reason I'm so focused on technology as a force that we need to embrace and harness. It's at a critical juncture now, and we need to consider things like a digital bill of rights so we direct this unstoppable force towards balance. I look forward to seeing what you find here! Thanks! 🙏
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Great video! Normally, I dislike when people try to "teach" philosophy like it's an objective, matter-of-fact phenomenon. To describe one particular philosophical perspective as if it were objective truth and/or separate from other perspectives is to describe an incomplete picture (which is why the four quadrants are so great as a tool to connect them). These philosophical perspectives are connected with each other just as our understanding of them is connected with our own personal philosophy. That's why I think it's very interesting and very important for communicators to be transparent with their consumers. I really appreciate videos like this because it gives me (the consumer) insight into how you (the communicator) think about these philosophical perspectives and how your own interests and beliefs affect the content you create and generally the way you yourself think/talk/learn about all of this. Keep up the great work! :)
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