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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:08 Prologue
16:02 Alan Wake Story
32:52 Saga Anderson Story
46:45 Ending
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Music In Order:
0;00 Alan Wake - Alan Wake
16;02 Alan Wake - Vacation
32;51 Dead Space 2 - Issac Are You There?
46;45 SOMA - Catherine's Theme
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Date of upload: Oct 30, 2023 ^^
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A tiny detail I like is that saga seems a bit more understanding of alan after spending time in the dark place. She never hated him and was always committed to getting him free, but the way she interacts with him after she gets trapped for a few minutes says, to me, that while shes obviously still not happy about the situation with her family, she understands how alan got to where he is mentally and emotionally since she was only there for a few minutes and it almost drove her crazy. She doesn't say it explicitly but her voice is kind when she calls him a hero, too. I just appreciate the acknowledgement that alan really is trying and that he's not his worst moments
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Warlin Door is Saga’s father. Odin and Tor gave him to the Dark Presence during one of the first Bright Falls AWEs. When speaking with Tim Breaker at the end of the game he said he tried to follow Door’s path but it didn’t work. When the ability to profile Door appears he says that the Doors family have the power dictate where Doors go. Thus saga has both the powers of the Anderson family & the Doors family.
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Though I don’t have proof I am confident that originally they casted Lance Reddick the actor for Hatch in quantum break) to be Mr. Door but with his sudden passing they had David Harewood instead. During the end game credits you even see a commemoration to Lance Reddick passing.
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I think I’ve got an answer as to why scratch is no longer a physical copy of Alan wake and is now just a dark cloud possessing him like a ghost. It’s because of the ending of American nightmare. Despite being a spin off and a failed attempt at writing return, Alan managed to weaken the dark presence to return to its previous form. The dark cloud. If you pay attention to that ending cutscene it’s like Alan charred the body of scratch with light only leaving a cloud of ashes flying upwards. This also proves yet again that Alan Wake’s American Nightmare is canon. The lore of control described the dark presence as a dark cloud too. So that wraps up everything in a neat little bow.
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Pretty sure Ahti’s character and why he’s a janitor is a metaphor for combatting entropy. Making sure that reality doesn’t unravel into complete chaos. Which is why he calls Jesse his assistant in Control. Basically there to keep things in order
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Saga IS actually named after a Norse goddess. She's one of Frigg's handmaidens, though I understand the confusion as 1.) "Saga" is also a Scandinavian word for "story," and 2.) there's debate as to whether or not the handmaidens are distinct entities or simply aspects of Frigg and her divine domains.
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Couldn't agree more about James Mccaffrey's line delivery! Laughed out loud when he said "WHAT THE FCK HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING?!" in the projector booth.
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I'll add one thing about the final Alice scene - from my perspective, that cliff looked almost exactly like the cliff Alan jumped from in the first game. So it was fairly obvious to me that Alice was not dead, just in the dark place trying to help Alan.
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On Zane, something I dont see spoken of much is the REASON he's a filmaker now and not a Poet. Bluntly, everything happening is Zane's fault when he tried to use the Dark Place to bring back Barbara. He broke story conventions and took shortcuts...like films often do. Zane's still the one pulling the strings, he just lacks the creativity or even the selflessness needed to get free. He erased himself from the world, but kept himself in the story as "the poet everyone forgot" but didnt forget.
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I love the real life actors part its so cool this is a beautiful game amazing video as usual!
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I agree that the nursing home and wellness center were the most terrifying parts for me. The vibe of that area ticked all of the unnerving boxes for me. Also I think the mind place and detective board mechanics are so revolutionary and satisfying, gamifying the menu system and even bringing it into the story when Saga starts to succumb to the thoughts of doubt in the dark place.
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Just a couple of additional notes
1. There’s a manuscript page that mentions how Rose is the one to take Zane’s lamp from Cynthia’s room and send it to the dark place in a shoebox via the pond at the carehome. Cynthia loved Tom and losing the lamp made her finally give into despair so the dark prescence could take her over.
2. In one of the FBC files it is stated that The Lake House is the FBC’s main base of operations in Bright Falls but was unfortunately taken over by the darkness, perhaps we’ll get some more Control crossover in that DLC too!
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One thing that got me excited is hearing that the FBC HQ, or the Old House, has gone dark (found in a note inside the locked cell before the final act). This makes me wonder if they're still dealing with the Hiss in the internal lockdown, or if something else happened that would lead to a sequel. It's also interesting to note that Jesse can be seen in flashes during Alan's section, and is referenced on Breaker's whiteboard.
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One of the posters for a Thomas Zane film seen in the city lists the year of production as 1970, but 'based on the book by Alan Wake'... This made me think about Alan's identity, that while Zane wrote himself out of reality - 'the poet everyone forgot' - and is supposedly existing happily ever after somewhere with Barbara Jagger, he also rebirthed/ re-envisioned himself back into reality as Alan Wake. 🤔 Wake then created Zane the filmmaker to help him get out of the Dark Place once he found himself antagonised in the exact same way by the Dark Presence). Hence why they look the same and the Andersons/ Ahti refer to Wake as 'Tom', since they remember the 'original' man. Alan does not seem to understand why because he has forgotten his own self. There's also an identity theft poster in the subway which reads, 'You may not be the only You.'
But - 'it's not a [cyclical] loop, it's a spiral'. It's not a return, it's a corruption. Zane's spiral, Zane's corruption. Hence why he [spoilers] tells himself via payphone at the end that he will escape the Dark Place and he simultaneously won't, and that he's sorry for everything he will need to suffer through. In the film projected in Room 665, Zane refers to 'THE LABYRINTH OF ME'. And after Alan/ Scratch shoots him, [spoilers] he comes back to life. The 'Drowning' Writer's Journey video also made me consider this possibility more. He can't ever write himself out of the story, because not his story really - it's Zane's.
If this is a viable theory, perhaps the next incarnation in the 'spiral' would be a character Wake creates and becomes 'the writer people forgot' so that 'the journey into the night continues'. This is perhaps 'the ritual' to lead you on; your friends will meet him when you're gone. 'Scratch' was the Dark Presence's means of forcing this step when Alan refused to continue writing. Plenty of the characters imply they are playing roles in a much grander design; Mr. Door remprimands Alan at the end of We Sing - that he should play his part.
Zane is also described as depressed before meeting Barbara Jagger. Alan is similiarly desribed as manic-depressive, with anger issues. Also, Cynthia is to Zane as Rose is to Alan. And Tom's lamp and Alan's Clicker are interlinked.
🤔 Obviously this is all my own fantasy of how the story's logic is supported. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.
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One more note: Maybe Zane and Wake look the same because Wake is Zane's creation. He has overwritten himself in his attempt to rescue. He was constantly doing so, as we know Tom the Poet and Tom the Director, Tom the Diver. It seems Thor and Odin have the power to resist reality overwriting. Thor remembered that Logan is alive even when Alex Casey was affected by the story. That's why Thor and Odin keep referring to Alan as Tom.
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This game makes me realize that Saga and Alan's stories intersect in more subtle ways. Like the ending of Hotel 665 directly correlates to Cynthia Weaver being taken over by the dark presence. The victim in the bath tub was the muse, and the play is Tom Zane's work, who was Cynthia's lover at one point. The bathtub is exactly the same kind in Cynthia's room at Valhalla Nursing Home.
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As someone who absolutely loved Control, it does me good to see my favorite paradimensional janitor.
Stan Ahti in this house. Him helps with dah clogs.
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Just finished this game, and holy hell. It was amazing. I was so immersed in this game. It was just like reading a really amazing book ironically.
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I cant wait for all the future video essays and story analysis for years to come. This game is dense with ideas and symbolism.
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Alan Wake 1: "It's not a lake it's an ocean" Alan Wake 2: "It's not a loop it's a spiral" Alan Wake 3: "It's not a door it's part of a wall that can open"
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