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The fact that the franchise has shifted to the point where the core themes and conflicts have completely changed. It's no longer about Desmond uncovering the mystery of the Isu era. It's not about the Templar conflict. Each new release is a stand alone project flexing the beauty of the historical setting. I can see Isu as a fiction addition, but I can never digest all the Minotaurs and other mythical elements woven into the story. Never worked for me.
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damn man the whole stunt at 0:45
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The thing is I agree that narratives NEED an ending, but with AC in particular its literally the only consistent and reliable franchise that Ubisoft has outside of maybe Far Cry (which in itself is falling apart and not selling as well) and maybe Just Dance (isn't as sustainable as it is only available on Switch and not as popular as the Kinect Era). The games still sell well and still are massive profit incentives for Ubisoft and if it wasn't for AC, Ubisoft may have very well sold themselves to Tencent or another major company.
The games will most likely expand well into the next couple of decades, maybe as far as the next 3-5 console generations, covering settings that are still heavily requested (India, Spain, Aztecs, China, Mongols, Russia, Persia, Rome etc) before people are finally burnt out. The games still sell incredibly well, even better than previous instalments in fact because it draws international audiences by exploring history, but once interesting world history runs out, I think it may be time for AC to end as well.
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I absolutely agree with your point about stand alone stories continuing within the universe they've created.
To be completely honest, as a long time fan and frequent player of the series, i lost the plot a long time ago. I have no idea what the overarching story is trying to do with pretty much any game past revelations.
But those with more patience than me deserve a satisfying end to everything they've created so far and i would love to see them continue with more stand-alone assassin stories.
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I don't think the franchise needs to end so long as every game is made with narrative intent. History and Order vs Freedom are tools you can use to make infinite stories, and I'd be happy to get new AC games forever. All I ask is that the games serve a purpose to the overall franchise.
However, I do think the modern day needs a conclusion, because it's technically the main story, which needs a clear beginning and end.
Since AC4, the modern day has only existed because it needed to. While Valhalla did finally do something relevant with it, that doesn't change the fact that overall, the modern day is an irrelevant mess. There are just too many teams of writers working on a single story across all the games. "Too many chefs spoil the broth" if you will.
Looking to the near future, the Infinity Hub being our own Animus is Ubisoft quietly concluding the modern day. It's lazy, but safe. And I'm cool with that honestly.
I'd rather they silently kill this dead horse than have a single team of writers try to conclude the collective work of thousands of writers over 15+ years.
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I have been watching your vids for a few days now, just started my journey with Origins. I have to say I pretty much agree with every point you made during the video. I especially found it interesting when you said that "maybe the guys you thought were good are not so". Thinking about it now, in Valhalla the vikings are the absolute bad guys. Being related to the Aesir aside. Imagine you're a chap in England, chilling with the goats, living your silly life in peace and then a bunch of bearded brutes show up at your doorstep, murder you because you decided to pick up that security guard job at the local church, then they steal your food, possibly a holy relic and then loot a few more vases and go on with their day as usual. Absolutely horrid.
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Modern day is the main story and that's how it should be. Without it these are just a bunch of one off games with only a title to share.
Having said that, it should be rebooted. The whole series needs to go back to the start.
Desmond but with more active modern day segments. Start with the sneaking of the original but ramp it up to more parkour and takedowns as the bleeding effect progresses.
In reboot AC3, desmond should let the planet be demolished and then we get a workable full modern day with very few guns.
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finally subbed, twanted to briefly (or not) share my thoughts:
i think the first and thrid question go hand in hand and those combined then together with the second. should it end and when will it end will define how. I fully agree that the only "clear cut" answer is to the last question, when it will end: when it does not make money. As much as this is my favorite Universe and i enjoy all types of media, it is business driven in many aspects, each worth its own discussion. So with "when" having an answer "not for the foreseeable future" would come the question: should it? And i agree partially as well with you: yes, especially from the modern world perspective. But, and here is where i would disagree and pull in the "how": It is not really difficult to acchieve both and continue at the same time:
Have the current storyline culminate as you rightfully said in a climactic win for the templars. As the conflict lies in the shadows the immediate outcomes would not be felt by the world with urgency but rather over time. This would end the modern day as we know it and allow for a very simple and believable in-universe explanation why it just picks up the next game after the climactic end 100 or whatever years later. And from then, especially with the whole infinity thing in mind it basically reboots itself tbh, a hub where "like minded individuals gather to see the truth behind absertgos lies" or whtevs, guided by messages left behind "in the dark" by rebecca, shawn and william and to unlock, understand, find item x the players/initiates need to relive all sorts of memories by ancestors, which where all stored and setup and hidden by the OG modern Day Assassins to be used one day by the right people and so on and so forth.... So it should end, at least most of the current story threads and developments. And this may even happen rather soon, but in a way that allows to launch the next chapter.
Bonus: If there ever will be a final AC Game, the one to solve the last pieces to the puzzle, i would bet my money on ancient rome during Marc Aurels reign 161 - 180. The adoptive emperors period is kind of "the peak" because the succession was by qualification not heritage. The one to break it was probably the wisest of them all. This tragedy of making a fatal decision despite knowing better or simplyfailing at the most important task, this whole scenario just seems so griping for a final game, with Rome at its height, the personal drama of succession and mix in a almost "classic" Assassin - Order Story with great characters... that is how i would end it. Plus, its ancient rome, and although dream scenarios are either being made or have been made (egypt/greece, french revolution, victorian london, japan, meso america rumored heavily) and we saw a glimpse in Origins (including the second pivotal moment in roman history, the obvious and more famous one) but we want ancient Rome in all its glory. With all the vaults, all the ancients wonders, all of it.
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I think in a way you can incorporate both of your ending ideas. Having the templars win would not only be heartbreaking to see from the assassins standpoint, but it would also make sense. With how outnumbered the templars are, they should've been able to win ages ago. So when the templars win, we fast forward to the future where we will take control of an abstergo employee. Near the end of that mission you can reveal that there are people who are slowly forming a rebellion. This can be done to show that there will always be the conflict, even when the battle seems lost, the scales will always end up balanced. There will always be people who want to fight for freedom, and will fight control. You can even have the abstergo employee be an undercover assassin as well.
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They needed to focus on the story we all cared about. Desmond was the character we all rooted for. In the game up until 3 we all expect at some point to take over Desmond and become and assassin. And we get small sections of that in 3 but I was expecting a full on game. We wanted to see what would happen to Shaun, Rebecca and Desmond’s dad. They got too lost in the past assassins. We needed an actual protagonist, not a new face every game with no real modern day to bridge it all together. I haven’t played after odyssey but i would hope to get back into it soon
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I hope Assassin's Creed Red, set in Feudal Japan brings back that quality dialogue for its corridor confession scenes, assuming it will have them at all.
On a side note, i truly hope that game doesn't disappoint. I have been watching the recent TV series Shogun (taking place in 1600 Japan) which is truly fantastic, and get me excited to see the franchise use this setting, especially since Red is going to be set in roughly the same time frame as the TV series does.
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@TheSpaniardAssassin
3 weeks ago
What do you think?
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