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Spacedock delves into realistic means of landing on other planets.
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One thing I would like to see more sci-fi use is reentry plating on the hull. It would be neat to have a hero ship whose smooth belly is just scorched from repeated re-entries.
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There's also the consideration of if the ship can even land *at all*. To quote Futurama:
Fry: "How many atmospheres (of pressure) can this ship withstand?"
Farnsworth: "Well it's a spaceship, so I'd say anywhere between zero and one."
Some ships just don't have the structural integrity to support their own weight in planetary gravity, or the thrust to escape a planet's gravity well should they get caught in it beyond a certain point... as anyone with sufficient time in Space Engineers would understand too well.
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Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing
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Nostromo landing in Alien gotta be one of the best landing scenes ever. Sure, It may not show them decelerating but the process of landing takes a significant amount of time from the opening and is shown to be extremely complex. Plus, the effects look so great for the time. I also love that, despite doing everything right, they still end up landing over an unstable surface, which ultimately damages the ship.
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As a writer, I LOVE these 'practical' videos. They talk about the stuff that the detail-oriented readers (like me) scoff at when we see a movie or TV show do it wrong. Helps to keep my writing honest and grounded.
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I love landing/disembarkation scenes because they can give a much better sense of scale to the vehicles. Its all well and good to know that the Roci is about 40 meters tall? long? deep? but that number can seem kind of meaningless when the ship is only shown in comparison to the vastness of space and other, nebulously sized vessels. When you see the crew walking around on the hull, or walking away from the ship on a planet, it shows how big (or small depending on how you pictured it) the ship actually is.
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A+ for including Phineas and Ferb's hilarious examples in a serious scientific breakdown. Love it.
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I love The Expanse for its hard-scifi take, but now that you've mentioned it I don't think I can unsee the perfect cliff height they had on Ilus.
I suppose though the ramp could theoretically angle itself a small amount to compensate, kind of like what we see with some docking clamps on stations.
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8:27 I'm fairly certain the Roci's landing gear in the show is able to adjust somewhat to different heights. So they find a cliff that roughly matches the height of the main hatch to within a few meters, and adjust the landing legs up or down to make it match up perfectly. The drawback, as we saw in the episode, was that their "perfect" landing site was pretty far from the base camp, and they had to walk a long distance on foot.
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That footage from Voyager's opening and the "really small bodies" comment is a level of inside joke I didn't expect lmao.
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Fun fact, while it is hard to see in 720p, the 1080p version of Stargate Atlantis clearly shows the BC304 landing in the water in between the peers of the city.
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One thing to remember about realistic landings is that if you use something like a fusion drive you need separate landing/takeoff trhrusters so you donât melt the landing zone. Besides using separate thrusters for landing/takeoff you could also have the spacehip change the ratio between actual fusion fuel and remass. When near ground you could decrease the amount of fusion and dump lots of water into the engine to keep the exhaust cool enough for landing while maintaining thrust. This would of course mean that the spaceship could only do a few landings/takeoffs before running out of remass.
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The landing of a ship is something I love in Starfield. I really enjoy watching the landing gear fire their engines slow down and then watching as it touches down. I also really like the attention to detail with the shock absorbers and seeing them take in the shock of the landing. I never get tired of watching a ship land or take off given how both are done. It truly makes for a more realistic feel to the game.
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2:49 I just love the annotations. "From NASA" "From NASA" "From associated press" "From Scott Manley". It just shows how much of an impact some guy on YouTube can have when it comes to educating an entire generation about airospace engineering.
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I love how you said âreally small bodiesâ over the voyager tiny planet scene :)
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One type of reentry I enjoyed from Gundam was the use of what they called 'ballute system', which took the form of an inflatable worn on a mobile suit's back or a fitted warship's aft. When the suit/ship enters the atmosphere, the inflatable deploys to shield the suit/ship from the heat of re-entry and to slow it down when coupled with supplementary thrusters which are used once the craft has cleared the whole "Will melt/explode" stage and the inflatable is jettisoned.
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the biggest element in scifi landing of course is that scifi ships have unlimited propellent mass. So unlike say the Falcon 9, there is no worry about having enough to also land.
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one thing that gets me are the thrust levels involved in propulsive landing. The Overlord dropship from Battletech weighs 9,700 tons and can accelerate at 2.5G. It may not use all of that thrust in atmosphere, but i it did it would be nearly 7 Saturn V's worth. The noise alone would be absolutely shattering for miles around.
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What I really liked about the exspanse books is that the Roci docks vertically, but she belly lands.
You could imagine there would an interesting distinction between multi purpose vessels like the Roci that can enter atmosphere and land, and larger vessels that may never be intended to land at anything other than a dock let alone enter atmosphere.
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