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The Science & Process of Healing from Grief | Huberman Lab Podcast #74
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836,521 Views ā€¢ May 30, 2022 ā€¢ Click to toggle off description
This episode, I discuss grief and the challenges of processing losses of different kinds. I explain the biological mechanisms of grief, including how neural circuits for emotional and factual memory combine with those for love and attachment, to create feelings of absence and yearning. I discuss how grief is distinct from depression, yet why they can feel so similar. I also provide science-based tools to assist with the grieving process, including how to reframe and remap the relationship with those we have lost while still maintaining a strong emotional connection to them. I also explain the importance of having and building strong foundational psychological and biological states so that we can better cope with grief when it happens. Finally, I describe tools to adjust those states, including those for accessing sleep, managing stress and emotional swings. This episode is for those suffering from grief but also for everyone, given that we all experience grief at some point in our lives.

We recorded this episode before the recent mass shooting tragedies in the United States. While we hope the information in this episode will be of use to anyone suffering from grief of any kind and at any time, we are also careful to acknowledge that many people require additional support and resources. For that reason, we include mention of such resources and we generally hope people will access them if needed.

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00:00:00 Grief & Bereavement
00:03:44 Eight Sleep, InsideTracker, ROKA
00:08:35 Grief vs. Depression, Complicated Grief
00:12:20 Stages of Grief, Individual Variation for Grieving
00:16:05 Grief: Lack & Motivation, Dopamine
00:23:15 Three Dimensions of Relationships
00:29:52 Tool: Remapping Relationships
00:37:15 Grief, Maintaining Emotional Closeness & Remapping
00:44:40 Memories of Loved Ones & Remapping Attachments
00:48:04 Yearning for Loved Ones: Memories vs. Reality, Episodic Memory
00:51:40 Tools: Adaptively Processing Grief, Counterfactual Thinking, Phantom Limbs
01:00:32 Tool: Remembering Emotional Connection & Processing Grief
01:04:03 Memories, Hippocampal Trace Cells & Feeling An Absence
01:10:14 Yearning & Oxytocin, Individualized Grief Cycles
01:18:24 Tool: Complicated Grief & Adrenaline (Epinephrine)
01:24:37 Sentimental Attachment to Objects
01:26:13 Why do Some People Grieve More Quickly? Individual Attachment Capacity
01:29:42 ā€œVagal Tone,ā€ Heart Rate, Breathwork & Grief Recovery
01:42:32 Complicated Grief & Cortisol Patterns
01:48:50 Tool: Improving Sleep & Grieving
01:54:28 Tools: Grief Processing & Adaptive Recovery
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@kt9495

1 year ago

ā€œGrief, Iā€™ve learned, is really just love. Itā€™s all the love you want to give, but cannot. All of that unspent love gathers in the corners of your eyes, the lump in your throat, the hollows of your chest. Grief is just love, with no place to go.ā€ ~Jamie Anderson

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@lindareynolds659

1 year ago

You never get over grief you just get better at living with it.

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@chime-girl

1 year ago

Unprocessed grief is not just about a death of a person or pet. Grief goes much deeper,. For instance the disappointment of life, the death of a dream, aging, unmet expectations, a traumatic childhood or event, losing a body part, becoming disabled, going though a pandemic, the list goes on and on.

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@Annette-yw5oc

3 months ago

Thank you for acknowledging pets. I lost my beloved girl last week after 14.5yrs and the pain and grief is almighty. The absence is surreal, I don't know who I am without her.

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@user-nq1bo2tf7i

2 months ago

Grief is so hard. My husband & I attended a weekly grief-support group for two years after the loss of our oldest child. Now, twenty years later, we lost our middle child last month just before the holidays. I feel some of the pain of the first loss is now inter-mingling with this recent loss. It seems I feel the loss of both of them now. Grief is emotional, mental and very physical and it is possible to adjust, but it takes time. Be patient with yourself. A treasure is not forgotten.

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@CICMCB

2 weeks ago

I lost my husband going on 6 years ago. He passed away on May 28th, 2018. I came home and he had passed away of a heart attack. I didnā€™t get to say goodbye. We were married 41 years and loved each other very much. I was devastated the first 8 months. I cried every day. The lost of my best friend, protector, provider, strong arms to hold me, my love. When we were first married I use to say the poem to him or give it in a card How do I love thee let me count the ways. I love thee to the depth and breadth and height my soul can reach, when feeling out of sight For the ends of being and ideal grace. I love thee to the level of every dayā€™s most quiet need by sun and candlelight. I love thee freely as men strive for right. I love thee purely as they turn from praise. I love thee with the passion put to use in my old griefs, and with my childhoodā€™s faith. I love thee with a love I seemed to lose with my lost saints. I love thee with the breath smiles, tears, of all my life; and if God choose, I shall but love thee better after death. Itā€™s almost 6 years we never slept apart and I have had trouble sleeping since his side of the bed is empty. Last month I lost our puppy we had for 17 years. She slept at the foot of our bed. She is with her daddy now in heaven and I know one day I will be there with them so I have that hope. Everyday I tell them good morning and talk of them through the day. Grief morphs into a dull sadness a longing a yearning that never goes away. But I am better. ā¤šŸ˜‡āœļø

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@deniseweavinghannah

1 year ago

Thank you all for your supportive comments. It is now been almost 3 years ( I keep editing the time frame) since my daughterā€™s passing. (My grief has transformed me into a different version of myself). When my parents divorced I thought that was the worst grief, when I gave a baby up for adoption I thought that was the worst grief, when I divorced I thought that was the worst grief, when my grandparents passed I thought that was the worst grief. When my 25 year old daughter passed two years ago I know this is the most intense grief. I send my love to all of us who have gone through grief. It is beyond words but not beyond heart.

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@zenandaphne9687

1 year ago

I lost both my parents in the earthquake in Turkey. It's been a month. however, it is not getting easier. The things we could not do together, the words that were not uttered, and the loss of so much potential and opportunity are endless. They are haunting me every day. I am able to sleep, and function mostly at work but I am bleeding inside.

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@TheRoyalflush666

1 year ago

I lost the woman I wanted to spend my life with in March and I have been struggling to find meaning in my own life ever since... I miss her so much.. the grief hurts so bad it drops me to my knees at times.. I've dealt with loss many times in my life with several family members, grandparents, and my father but the grief isnt the same feeling as losing someone who was your other half and your best and only friend and someone you sacrificed for and gave your whole heart too... she had a son too who I helped raise from the time he was 2 until he was 6 and I treated him like he was my own and spent time with him everyday and now I never see him.. I lost my whole family in one swoop... I stupidly thought that holding my girls hand in the hospital as she was pulled off life support and as she passed from this life to the next was rock bottom and it couldn't get any worse than that... little did I know that it wasnt.. I haven't hit rock bottom yet but I now know that what comes after the loss is much worse.. the coming home to an empty home, the lack of response when you say I love you out loud to yourself, the longing for their voice their touch their smile looking back at you their warmth their embrace their kiss, the silent car rides doing all the basic tasks you used to do together, the waking to an empty home that was once shared, the closing off the room they spent the most time in because you can't bare to be in their because it's too painful and you keep picturing them there, the inability to sleep in your bed because you shared it with them and now you sleep on the couch because the bed is no longer comfortable without them, the change in routine for your day because you no longer have the same responsibilities as you used to have, the waiting for your phone to light up with a message from them, passing by all the favorite places the 2 of us always went too and all her favorite places she loved to shop, all the unfulfilled plans and promises of things you always wanted to do with them or do for them that can never be fulfilled, all the things you pass by and say I bet thet would love this and the "want" to tell them about it or surprise them with it and the sudden realization that you cant, and the million other minor details that are now missing in your life after the loss of your other half are all worse than the initial loss.... nothing can ever fill that place... and it never will... can you die from heartbreak? I only hope I'm close behind so I can see her again I truly miss her...

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@rachelreyes4128

1 year ago

Thank you for including pets. I just lost my dog I had for 7 years and I am really going through it. Itā€™s incredible the emotional bond we can develop towards our pets. Itā€™s very much the loss of a loved one. šŸ„ŗ I miss my little Mojo šŸ¾ šŸ¤Ž

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@jademcl4727

4 days ago

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! Thank you for repeatedly mentioning pets in this. I have lost aunts, uncles, and friends but I lost my beautiful little dog Ru a day ago and I have never felt this pain in my life. I'm sure alot of people don't take the death of an animal too seriously but she was my heart and soul. It feels like the sun has been plucked out of the sky. I really feel like a light has gone out in my life and I feel very alone in my grief. Hearing you just mention animals and including them means so much.

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@feedingit

9 months ago

I lost my dog this week to a completely unexpected terminal illness. I have never felt such sadness in my soul. She was such a good friend. She did what we needed her to do and we never had to correct her behavior. She slept in my bed every night and had my days regimented for 8 years. She was such a fun and funny animal. I canā€™t believe she had to go. I still think about what to cook that I can share with her or see parks that I think we should go to b.c she would enjoy new sniffsā€¦then I realize she is no longer with us and get so sad. My sincere condolences to everyone who is grieving the loss of a loved one. I pray for your peace and return to joy.

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@captain_cook1622

1 year ago

Dude, you're the Jimi Hendrix of Scientific world. Hats off to you

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@fiftiesandfabulous

11 months ago

I canā€™t believe that we have these amazing people with all this knowledge and they give it to us for free. Thank you

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@dianaf6333

9 months ago

I truly appreciate how animals were included in this episode. Some of the most painful times of my life were due to the loss of a pet

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@suebc2150

1 year ago

Thank you for this! I lost my 17 yr old daughter 6 months ago. I honestly still can't believe it. My brain doesn't let me believe that she is actually gone. It will tell me she is at school or away with friends. When I get those moments when I realize she really is gone it is too much.

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@Quaffables

1 year ago

Thank you for this episode. I lost my wife to breast cancer a year ago. There isnā€™t many resources or outreach for young widowers like myself (especially during Covid). Iā€™m still coping with everything and any and all information to help me feel like Iā€™m not a crazy person is very welcomed. My grief has ruined my career path, my passions, and my interest in life. The only thing I found that helps is regular exercise and running. I miss my wife desperately and I know that void she left when she passed will never be healed. Restarting my life at 35 really really sucks. Thank you for this episode! Iā€™m sure you realize how needed this information truly is and I appreciate you and your colleagues insight into this difficult process.

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@AnnapolisGirly

10 months ago

My son died last week. Iā€™m going to try to watch this soon, when Iā€™m ready.

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@sandrallamas8178

2 months ago

The loss of a child has no healing.. I can barely breathe, and it has been 8 years! Her memories are painful. They are a reminder of all the love we had for each other! My complicated grief is here to stay for the rest of my life.

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@TheBroSplit

1 year ago

So sorry for everyone's loss here in the comment section. It's the bitter part to the bitter sweetness of life. May they rest in Peace and you find less suffering

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