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Date of upload: Sep 19, 2023 ^^
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34:46 i feel such sympathy for humans of the world who care so deeply of what other think of them that it shakes their core. the fact that not everyone will like you being a "haunting" realization speaks volumes on that person's psyche
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The problem with pickup artists is the unhealthy objectifying mindset and gamification of dating. The problem with mainstream advice is that itās generic and wrong. Most people giving advice do not have the requisite experience, background, or success rate among clients who have faced immense rejection and failure, not to mention the shaming of men trying to get help. Having seen both, unfortunately pickup artist advice despite all its flaws is far more effective than mainstream advice.
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As a straight guy in early 20s who got into seduction culture, I don't think having casual sexual encounters is always solely based on raising masculine value. I'll speak for a group of guys big enough that it's worthy of mentioning them. It is a mix of many things, one of them is for sure gaining masculine value and respect amongst other men.
Another key thing for me is sex drive. I want to have sex and I don't look for committed relationships, though I'm not against them and if I meet someone interesting and close to me lets say, through my casual connections, I would most probably continue to explore them deeply.
Another thing for me would be the process. The process of interacting with these ladies, understanding female nature, how they work, how they think... Etc.
And one more thing would be facing whatever seems hard to be done. Approaching women and leading that to sleep with them isn't an easy thing to get done and I think if that's what someone really wants to do caused by their sex drive in this case, it would be very good if someone is able to find the person for it and get it done.
This is how I and many guys I know see the picture, good or bad, this is one side of the seduction-puas culture.
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at 15:27 the point made that it is encouraged in the pick up industry is to push and pressure the girl.
These people are from the MAIN branch of pick up which is inferior the the very small group of people who learn truely about women in the space(that do not refer to themselves as pick up artists but often dating coaches as the name itself is objectifying). Because If you really understand women you will know that one of the best things you can do is instead of pressuring her you should do the COMPLETE opposite
eg: after a date a girl came back to my place and was outside the door, and just before entering I noticed she was hesitant, this is understandable we had just met, im stronger then her physically and no one knew she was there, I calmy told her that if she came inside she could leave whenever she wanted and there were no expectations we could just have coffee and chat. she smiled and agreed. I could see she was a lot calmer and open. we got inside. had coffee, started kissing, I eventually put my hand under her shirt on her back and was tracing her bra, and 15 seconds later she pulled away a little flustered and clearly didnt know how to say she didnt want to go further, I smiled and said she was a good kisser(she was) and I moved back and didnt make a big deal out of it and started chatting about other stuff, then 30 min later I said it was getting late and if she needed to call a cab she could let me know as she wasnt from the area. little bit later she asked me to call one, I did. said our goodbyes. Next week she came round to mine we end up in the bedroom kissing, I stop her and let her know to tell me if she wants to stop and I will stop.(ofc I will look out myself if anything is off like i did last week) we had the most amazing sex, she told me it was the best she had ever had(because she was allowed to be herself without judgement from how i had been honest and communicated with her up to that point) she even had insecurity about her legs and so I made sure to compliment them in bed (they were amazing it likely came from a past critisism of them)
the most important thing is that she was also seeing a guy at the same time, and he was telling me about him and I INSTANTLY knew he was one of the pick up guys from that main thought process. how he negged her and played on her insecurities to spike emotion, to the fact he did pressure her into things lightly with certain qualifiers.
I didn't speak badly of him, but she stopped talking to him and only started talking to me, they didnt fight or fall out she just prefered me and it wasnt even close because his methods of unauthenicity are simply inferior to my approuch of honesty and not objectifying but almost bringing her to life as a person.
In conclusion, that main stream pick up art teaching is only previlant because it is 1. easier then authenticity 2. there are not enough men with a good romantic skill set to beat this dark side of pick up because of the culture we are in that does not teach it, and shames it which pushes it underground.
edit: not my only experiance, I have had pick up dudes try to talk to a girl im with at bars and night clubs, I sweeped the flaw with them, women are not stupid and are very good at judjing value, and again I know all their tricks. because they see it as catching a fish. When a fish does not want to be caught, a women does want to find the right guy. so he is trying to catch the fish and I understand its a fish that wants to fuck another fish, and can very much understand how that works. unlike being caught on a lure.
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@mjr_schneider
7 months ago
The stuff about race rings very true to anyone who's familiar with this scene. Asian and especially East Indian men in Western countries have it really rough when it comes to dating. If you look at dating app statistics they are always ranked lowest when it comes to women's preferences.
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