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These two modes show up in very interesting ways in our current society. These can be fruitfully mapped over with the religious and scientific mindsets; with the Constrained and Unconstrained Visions of Thomas Sowell's work; with the Order and Chaos of Jordan Peterson's work Maps of Meaning and with the left- and right-hemispheres of the brain in Iain McGilchrist's work.
None of these are 1:1 mapovers but there's something rich even in this difference. This episodes marks the beginning of our explorations in this fertile model of human life.
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- Turner, V. The Ritual Process: Structure and Anti-Structure
- Turner, V. Revelation and divination in Ndembu ritual
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⌛ Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Structure
5:30 Communitas
6:32 The Communitas Mode of Being
10:01 Structured Communitas
13:12 Religion and Commun
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Top Comments of this video!! :3
Personally, I'm very happy to see somebody from Ireland who has similar interests to mine and produces amazing content too! Keep up the great work and I wish you enjoyed your break!
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I feel like your videos always pop up when I need them most. My friend and I were talking about a similar topic just the other day. I can't wait to show him.
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Structure is of the head, an analysed, calculated relation. Communitas is of the heart, a spontaneous, emancipated relation. Rather than two modes, labels for the opposite ends of an axis. Life usually takes place somewhere along the line. Is +1 mutually dependent on -1?
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On the last topic at the very end, you've made reference to the controversial roles in the Politics domain (Left & Right), in the Religion & Spiritual domains, and in the Science & Techonology domains associated or not with the Culture & Business domains; But you absolutely forgot to make any reference to the role of the Arts domain, in the development of our sensbility, imagination, vision, feeling and understanding of our own societies, and what it might become (just as you forgot to mention the role of Philosophy on that regard).
Besides that, congrats for this historical comparison between Structure & Communitas; it offers great insight in those concepts, notably Communitas which I had very few notion about. Now I have a word to explain why I often had certain kind of admiration for Religious communities (despite all the problematics of Religion), and for ancient, ancient-living or traditional/folkloric communities; it was because of the precise notion of "Communitas", even though I didn't have the word for it.
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interesting concept and insightful summary. i appreciate how you connect the duality to correlate with order and chaos - though Peterson sees Chaos in a mainly negative valence, it also contains an idealism of what structurelessness offers in freedom, possibilities, spontaneity, and equality. it seems like many dualities out there essentially get back to this one.
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I recently finished
'The Master and his Emissary' by Iain McGilchrist. This book does a good job explaining this idea of having two brains.
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Love this channel love this content. Keep up the amazing work.
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"I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized; nor should any organization be formed to lead or to coerce people along any particular path. If you first understand that, then you will see how impossible it is to organize a belief. A belief is purely an individual matter, and you cannot and must not organize it. If you do, it becomes dead, crystallized; it becomes a creed, a sect, a religion, to be imposed on others. This is what everyone throughout the world is attempting to do. Truth is narrowed down and made a plaything for those who are weak, for those who are only momentarily discontented. Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it. You cannot bring the mountain-top to the valley. If you would attain to the mountain-top you must pass through the valley, climb the steeps, unafraid of the dangerous precipices."
J. Krishnamurti
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What is then your take on a computerized governmental/economic structure like with project cybersin? By using an unbiased agent to maintain our essential political structures, could we then prevent the uneven distribution of power and reach a higher status of equity/equality?
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I really like the art you have accompanying your lectures, especially the figure from the cold war science fiction novel Who.
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"Rapture of the nerds" is one of the best phrases I've ever heard.
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Ideally, structure would make communitas sacred and "protect" authenticity from the structure itself.
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Interesting take on religious institutions. I have felt the same way, but not really know how to best frame what I was thinking. Is there going to be any attempt to view Parsons vs. Giddens structuralism and then Stone’s “Strong Structuration?”
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This listener hopes you are putting a book together. Your bringing together the history of Continuental and British thought and folks like McGilchrist is important thinking.
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another great piece🤙
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Not only can/does the prophecy and prophet move institutionalized religion to renewal and reform, but also priests and kings can/are collaborating in Church renewal. It started with St. Francis in the 13th century and continues today.
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Just terrific 👏
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Is it possible that any society can absolutely escape structure? Whether it’s customs, religion, law, we’ll always find ourselves in the remnants of some convention
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Appreciate your newst video thank you❤
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@gryphonschnitzel7140
11 months ago
Youre one of my favorite philosophy youtubers. Your content is insanely good and i wish you dont stop producing.
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