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Art of Manliness - youtube.com/@artofmanliness
Waving the Red Flag - youtube.com/@WavingtheRedFlag
Classic debunks of various manosphere topics
MuneCat debunks the manosphere -    â˘Â I Debunked the Entire Manosphere Â
Sissyphus trying to make sense of the manosphere -    â˘Â Journey Into The MANOSPHERE Â
Frank Laundry explaining Fresh and Fit -    â˘Â The Cult of Fresh and Fit Â
Zatzman on the Manosphere as a content farm -    â˘Â The Existential Horror of Manosphere ... Â
Reports on radicalization mentioned in the video -
www.axios.com/2023/07/28/facebook-feed-algorithm-pâŚ
www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2101967118
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Top Comments of this video!! :3
"We live in a world where fresh&fit can shit on women all the way to the bank for three years and only get punished for something other than misogyny" is a great phrase to summarize this that hits hard, thank you for putting into words something that had been bugging me but I couldn't really express clearly.
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I ainât gonna lie, it was funny to watch Myron cry, regardless of how long term the demonetization is
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Yep! My own brother had a brief redpill period right after his divorce. It took us as a family to continuously check him for him to realize he was just hurt.
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I remember seeing a video of Jason Wilson on Instagram instructing a young boy in karate, and the boy was crying bc he was frustrated that he couldnât kick through a board. Jason said something to the effect of âitâs okay to cry, men cry when they want to do betterâ and I thought that was really powerful. Jason calmly talked the boy through the move, and on the next try, the boy kicked through the board. He was so happy and hugged Jason for helping him, which Jason seemed to gladly reciprocate. As someone who grew up wrestling from the age of 5, and with my dad being the coach of my high school, (a guy who felt he had to display âtraditional masculinityâ), I often wish that Iâd had this approach to learning as a young kid, and seeing that video was heartwarming. As a recent college grad, I plan on coaching my local high school in wrestling, and I want to teach these impressionable boys/men (14-18) some valuable masculinity lessons, lessons that donât involve the putting down of women (especially bc we have a womenâs wrestling team, which is awesome in and of itself).
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It's cultivation theory, isn't it? Red pill content doesn't take "normal men" and turn them into raging misogynistic dickwads, it's proliferation simply makes the raging misogynistic dickwad mindset seem more normal and accepted, and thus, those people already predisposed to that mindset feel emboldened to be louder and more open about their beliefs.
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There's a few responses insinuating that certain folks dont hate or have issues with women. They're saying "I was juat looking for how to talk girls" etc.
I feel like once you hear "women need to be scared of you" and some of the many awful things that come from red pill spaces, and you stick around... It's because youre ok with those awful things. I dont think anyone could have ever told me those types of things and i wouldn't have immediately recoiled in disgust.
If you came for "how to talk to girls" and stayed for "women shouldn't vote"... You're a misogynist.
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Iâm probably not your typical viewer. I am a widowed mother of three sons. My oldest is 22 and my twins are 14. I have to stay abreast of the latest awfulness, so I can make sure they are not falling for any of it.
So far so good.
Itâs rough out here. Voices like yours are so important for so many reasons.
Thank you.
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I don't have children (woman in my 30's) but I have witnessed my relatives with children (men and women) and how they speak to their kids. There's this default rhetoric of the girls having to guard themselves, not put themselves in certain situations (paving the way for future potential victim blaming), that they have to manage and monitor and constantly be on guard for what boys and men "will" do in future. For the boys? "I don't care what he does as long as he doesn't bring it to my door". Direct quote from my sister in law. Like, wtf??? It's either that or really domineering authoritative parenting. When one of the 5 year old boys was running around excitedly playing, his Dad stood over him and shouted at him for a solid two minutes. I'm a grown woman and even I went into fight or flight mode and I really didn't feel safe. It's effed up. If I said anything I would be told to keep out of it, or that I'm too soft. It's normalising abuse and desensitising boys from a very young age, cutting them off from emotional expression and communication and then putting the responsibility for managing this dysfunction onto girls instead of just f*cking doing their jobs as parents.It is disgusting.
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You made a good point on "misogyny starts at 3 years old". Children see children do, and if we have patriarchy as a default, no bonus points for guessing what children see
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That "respect is based on fear" shit, b'god. I've been in a romantic relationship where the threat of physical violence (and eventually the actuality of it) was always present. No, it did no engender in me "respect" for my partner that he had to resort to punching walls and shoving me and destroying my possessions because he was "upset". Each instance of abuse or property destruction just eroded my trust and sense of safety until I had to leave for self protection. People stuck in DV situations don't "respect" their abuser; they learn to shape their lives to appease the abuser until they can find some avenue towards safety. Some never find it, but that doesn't mean they respect or even fear their abuser, so much as pity and resent them and are just waiting them out. Abusers teach their partners to lie and conceal themselves and seek escape, because abusers don't want to be in a relationship with another person with agency, they want a bangmaid to vent their frustrations upon. And they will all eventually end up alone as they deserve to be.
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Ironically, I went through a slight red pill phase while I was in a relationship, and it took me getting dumped to snap out of it and grow up. Most of these guys will never have an experience like that because they either drive every rational person in their lives away or if they do have this kind of experience, end up blaming women instead.
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Thank you for saying this. Seeing their brand of misogyny being âokâdâ until now, when they finally get demonitized but for something else, has been pretty discouraging.
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ngl when me and my friends heard fresh and fit were gone we all let out this collective sarcastic âoh nooooâ so iâm happy to receive some coverage of it from someone who knows what theyâre talking about
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not enough people are willing to admit that the source of a lot of bad behavior is not online influence but rather the discourse present in real life. non-online people still have violent misogynistic thoughts because they were primed to have this thinking from patriarchal thinking. i honestly think placing the blame on influencers is just another way of passing off responsibility for bad behavior from educators and adults in society as a whole to this abstract Big Bad. no one wants to admit they uphold patriarchy even in subtle ways. âi donât say i want to oppress women out loudâ doesnât mean actions/other words donât show this.
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The red pill says that all love is transactional, and that you need to be worthy of love. You help friends out of the Red Pill world by showing them unconditional, non-transactional love. Good stuff FD
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I recently reconnected with a red pilled former friend because we both work out at the same gym and his place in his life echoes so many of the things you mention here. Bitter father, recently divorced, Rocky relationship with kids, struggling financially, insecure about appearance (insane because heâs handsome and jacked), boom itâs the feministâs fault. Trying to ignore those distractions and focus more on building him up and praising both our work towards personal improvement. Itâs tough though. Much easier to write someone off and stick to what you know.
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You have helped me so much to not become a bitter, man-hating asshole. There are days where the only way I know there are conscious men out there is tuning in to you and Eliot Sang. Y'all give me hope for the world, and, even though I'm not your "target" audience, I want you to know you have helped me out of some really dark experiences and I appreciate you so much.
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The home field advantageâthatâs what I call what conservatives have. They are working with the status quo and trying to maintain it. It is the norm. They have a âhome fieldâ advantage.
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You are the most reasonable voice on this topic. Im sick of leftists blaming women the same way right wing men do. I'm more worried about mine and my daughter's reproductive rights than men being lonely....as if women aren't lonely and rejected.
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@FDSignifire
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Another detail that ill probably touch on later is that because there's so much debunk content and so much hate watching between very opposite communities, you WILL end up getting certain folks in your algorithm sometimes even if you're not looking for that content. Ill probably talk about this in the future
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