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We still don't understand the Manosphere
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00:00 Banger intro
01:11 The Manosphere is big business.
08:13 We still don't understand the manosphere.
19:54 What kind of man are you?
40:09 Incels make the world go round.
01:02:33 The other side of the game.
01:26:17 So what can be done?

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References
1- Mapping manosphere- Han, X., & Yin, C. (2023). Mapping the manosphere. Categorization of reactionary masculinity discourses in digital environment. Feminist media studies, 23(5), 1923-1940.
2- Networked misogyny - www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/14680777.2022ā€¦
www.michaelmessner.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/ā€¦
3- Leaving the manosphere- www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/1057610X.2023ā€¦
4- Liu, A. (2021). MRAsians: A Convergence between Asian American Hypermasculine Ethnonationalism and the Manosphere. Journal of Asian American Studies 24(1), 93-112. doi.org/10.1353/jaas.2021.0012.
www.adl.org/resources/blog/two-years-ago-they-marcā€¦
5- AIN paper - datasociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DS_Alteā€¦
6- Levels of wellbeing for Incels - labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2023/04/LevelsofWellā€¦
7- You tube radicalization study - www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.2101967118
8- Online radicalization argument - www.researchgate.net/profile/Joe-Whittaker-2/publiā€¦
9- Car killer story - www.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/northern-ky/20ā€¦

10- (radicalization is overblown but you tube is to blame) www.science.org/doi/pdf/10.1126/sciadv.adk2031


11-journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09567976211036065
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@pedroportillo1585

2 months ago

A profesor at the University of Indiana once told me, ā€œFathers are raising their sons for a world that no longer exists.ā€ That really got me thinking.

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@cornettotrilogyenjoyer

2 months ago

"a lot of these people were shitty before they found andrew tate" - YES, TY, NOT ALL OF US ACCIDENTALED OUR WAY INTO A NAZI PHASE, THAT SHIT IS NOT JUST SOME NORMAL TEENAGE RITE OF PASSAGE

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@CillianEm7

1 month ago

Theres this quote I love from Brennan Lee Mulligan, quoting his professor: "... people are not motivated by ideological codes. People are motivated by impulse and construct ideological codes to justify and rationalize what they were already going to do. An old professor of mine had this great thing. He said, ā€œOn the level of individuals and civilizations, personality predates ideology.ā€ Meaning that before you were a fascist, you were a bully and an asshole".

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@saturnc.2270

1 month ago

25y/o, Iā€™m AFAB, but my 49y/o MARRIED dad has been listening to and repeating a lot of manosphere stuff in recent years. This man has 3 daughters and a wife (plus my brother who has thankfully not fallen for this bs), and any time Iā€™ve tried to push back on his rhetoric he just goes on about how I donā€™t understand and then he just walks away while Iā€™m mid-sentence. He speaks to my mother like sheā€™s a toddler. He says rude shit about my little brother for not being ā€œmasculineā€ enough. He just sits at the kitchen table, drinking and watching ā€œtriggered libs,ā€ Andrew Tate, and other misogynistic creators like JLP all day and ignores or condescends to us all day. I truly feel like the manosphere (among other ideologies) has stolen my dad from us.

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@ZentaBon

2 months ago

It's crazy how normal teenage insecurity was monetized and SEVERELY enhanced....dystopian as fuck.

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@surgeland9084

2 months ago

As a lonely guy who struggles to meet people and navigate romance... I think a lot of guys forget how many women are in that exact same situation and how little they are being listened to.

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@Papabandana

1 month ago

If there is ONE THING I have been able to be proud of myself for, itā€™s that I NEVER got into the manosphere despite my depression, low self esteem and worsening mental health. I knew that, despite my suffering, to be arrogant and blame my suffering on others was a delusion. I found the problems from within.

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@CjWarfare

1 month ago

As a young black man in my early twenties trying to figure out how to be a good traditional masculine man without a dad, i was completely sucked into the manosphere when covid hit back in 2020. After years of watching that content i used to be very prejudice of women because I believed the rhetoric that was being given to me by the creators in that space. It wasnā€™t until recently when i stoped watching the content and all of the rage bait and started to improve my social skills that I realized how much of a negative mindset i used to have. Iā€™m so grateful that there are creators like F.D signifier who make these great video essays to explain just how much damage the manosphere is doing. Thank you mr. Signifier for your hard work šŸ‘šŸ¾

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@ablone

2 months ago

23 Year old lonely bitter dude here, got into the whole redpill and manosphere stuff when I was 19 because I was bitter that I wasnt desired by people. Only thing it made me was more bitter and depressed because I was everything the manosphere says women despise. Short, brown, funny accent, weird eyes, weird nose and a weird smile. Took me a while to get out of it but I did eventually. Still dont like myself BUT at least Im not as bitter as i was. It was your videos on the manosphere and some others that got me to start questioning it. Im just ranting at this point but your videos were great help to get me out of that weird circle (Ps I'm Pakistani and English isn't my first language so I apologize if some parts don't make sense, trying my best)

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@socialist-strong

2 months ago

ā€œMen these days are too feminineĀ discourse stretches back to the 1800sā€ Michel Foucault traces it back even further, to ancient greece, where one writer complained about young men of his day indulging in ā€œfeminineā€ expressions such as theatre and dance.

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@madisonbrown6281

1 month ago

what's crazy to me when they talk about incels is how men can acknowledge that it's a human need to have sex and yet in the same breath can say that women deserve to die in pregnancy BECAUSE SHE HAD SEX and that is her fault..... make it make sense.

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@nikovallenius3871

1 month ago

It just occured to me the other day that creating insecurity in order to exploit people is a really fundamental form of evil in the human experience, and it has always had it's forms in all the past eras, and how many "traditional masculine roles" like soldiers and factory workers have also been forms of exploitation of insecurity - and the irony is that so many people think those roles are how things should be. Naah, you just got socialized into the idea, and are now suffering from a stockholm syndrome.

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@BarbarossaSC2

2 months ago

"If you don't raise your son, someone else will."

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@tonymarchandstudios

2 months ago

Five years ago I found out about my wifeā€™s many infidelities throughout our fifteen year marriage. I was completely traumatized. I was working through my recovery and stumbled upon MGTOW content. It was really easy to fall into the trappings of those ideas because I was so hurt. Fortunately my affair recovery program and therapists pushed back on these ideas and I didnā€™t stay in there too long so I empathize with men who fall into because itā€™s very enticing when you feel so broken. When you feel like youā€™re not enough. Today Iā€™m much healthier and Iā€™m grateful for content like this because it helps me from falling back into the trappings of manosphere ideas and rhetoric. F.D, you are appreciated

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@MediumGhettoMachiavellian

1 month ago

His salary buys less, but his pride begs him to say, ā€œThe woman in my life doesn't have to work, and I like it that way.ā€ What he really may mean is that although his harem has only one occupant at a time, he does not want her wandering about too freely without the veil that the home provides. He is not nearly as secure in his masculine role as he would have others believe, and he allows his mateā€™s growing independence to threaten him emotionally.ā€ Menā€™s Liberation Jack Nichols 1975

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@NateMims

1 month ago

I've never been the type of man who tried to show I was a man by dominating woman...and it never made me less of a man...your manhood isn't measured by dominating others, but by standing on principle, standing up for what's right, and taking care of your family...

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@ihatescrappydoo6827

2 months ago

thank you for addressing the autism side of this conversation. iā€™m an autistic woman and iā€™ve been so frustrated about how the ā€œautistic school shooterā€ image has damaged our community this past decade.

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@CS-zb7hx

2 months ago

I just want to say I'm not a guy but I am autistic and the "autistic people are going to be more likely to have life experiences that push them into online echo chambers" bit is absolutely correct. Many of us have far better social outcomes in online spaces where things like tone and body language play less of a role in communication, and because of the nature of the internet this can cause a spiral of rejecting face to face interaction in favor of comfortable online echo chambers. To be clear, I think online hobbies are valid, I think having online friends is valid, but your entire life cannot be spent locked in a box filled with people trying to sell you things.

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@diallo1347

1 month ago

I'm a clinical mental health counselor who works with 16-24 year olds. And most if my male clients will at least reference the manosphere as a positive source of information. Some of my female clients are dating some of those same pro-manosphere guys and are in psychologically abusive relationships. They are property to be dominated and ran.

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@gnocchidokie

1 month ago

I can't wrap my head around how someone can claim being an "alpha male" while also being a dutiful follower of other men who tell them what kind of man they should be. I can't imagine anything more beta than that. I also love that they insist that there's no gender spectrum, but then went ahead and invented their own (alpha, beta, sigma, soy boy, etc etc).

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