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I can definitely see some similarities, particularly when it comes to the whole "teenagers being forced to fight to death" thing, but apart from that they feel like completely different stories to me
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A book or movie is so much more than the bare-bones premise of the plot like, if you boiled everything down to the most basic outline of the plot you could say a lot of things are copies of each other but it seems pretty obvious that the themes and intention of the stories are very different
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When I first read The Hunger Games, I thought it was totally a rip off. I was also in middle school so the themes were totally lost on me and I was only interested on that sick kid on kid violence. To further that point, my favorite character was Kazuo because that was the first time I had seen a character with the same name as me.
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People comparing media to older stories and saying that the new stories are just rip offs and deserve to be ignored is one of my pet peeves. I am a writer myself, and I know that I get inspiration for existing sources, and that is just how many authors and filmmakers are, but just because someone took inspiration does not mean that the new story is not good. Every time I see someone comment that 'blank is just Star Wars with blank' or 'blank came first and Harry Potter is just a copy' I find myself rolling my eyes so hard they might come out the back of my head.
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This is what I'd always been told and so I swore off The Hunger Games for years because of it. Then I read The Hunger Games and thought it was pretty impressive. I like them both and I guess there are similarities, but to me it's like saying that Game of Thrones is a rip-off of Lord of the Rings.
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Preach. I swear some people donât know what a rip-off is.
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The new wave of attention for Hunger Games probably has to do with the new movie The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes.
Which I heard is pretty good both book and the movie
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I remember on one video about The Hunger Games movie, there was a whole reply section of people who were firm believers in The Hunger Games being a rip-off of Battle Royale. There was one person who said that this was not true, and explained all of Suzanne Collinâs inspirations behind the series (Theseus and the Minotaur, Ancient Rome, Iraq War, etc.) and then more than one person replied to that comment being like, âYeah, no, people lie, she obviously ripped this off of Battle Royale and made all of that up to make it seem like she didnât.â And I was just like, âWhat the heck is wrong with these peopleâs critical thinking?â
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4:20 well Kitano says âlife is a game, earn itâ or something along the lines. Which means âwe had it rough, so in order to understand and respect the elders we put you through the meat grinderâ.
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You just know that there will be people in the comments whoâll be like âof course The Hunger Games isnât the same Suzanne Collins just changed enough of it to disguise the fact that itâs a ripoff of Battle Royale đ¤đ¤đ¤â
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Anyone claiming itâs a ripoff is 100% of the time just a weeb that idolizes Japanese culture and its products wholesale to a cringe degree.
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I might be another 1 of the 6 who read Battle Royale. It had to be over 15 years ago. When I was so much of a weeb, I had heard of that book before hearing about The Hunger Games. It was actually funny when The Hunger Games started becoming popular, I was like, "that sounds an awful lot like Battle Royale". But after finally seeing the first HG movie as an adult, I saw they have really nothing in common.
The BR movie is even different from it's book because they made Kitano into a central character. In the book, his name was Sakamoto. And he wasn't all that important. BR read more like a shonen series. The plot hardly matters. Characters are rather flat. It was the individual fight sequences that were fun to read. Super violent. Very much tuned down for the movie.
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This situation reminds me of the time when people were accusing The Lion King of being a rip-off of Kimba the White Lion; YMS explained how this wasn't the case in a 2-hour video, but to give a quick difference, both works have cliff-falling scenes, but while the ONE scene in the Lion King was emotionally laden, in Kimba (or as he was originally called in Japan, Leo), these scenes happen many times across many episodes, and as far as I know, not to much emotional effect (point is, one has to cherry-pick to make connections).
For whatever reason, mainstream works tend to draw anti-fans because they are mainstream (the late TotalBiscuit kind of touched-on this in his 5-words video, talking about why he found the word "Overrated" to be unhelpful to game discussion), and those anti-fans might try to "discredit" that work by claiming it's a rip-off of some other, more obscure work. But, sometimes, there simply is no "man" to stick it to; a creator might become successful with a work that has similarities to another work, but that doesn't necessarily mean they stole from that other work.
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I can see the âdisregard for childrenâ angle in both since it could be considered symbolic of how societyâs regress to literally killing the future, but that doesnât mean HG was a rip off. Itâs based on the Greek myth about the tributes being sent to Athens(?) I believe Collins stated.
Stories can have similar premises and not be rip offs. I think people who are either not creatives or lack media literacy (as you mentioned surface dabbling) insist on that as always being true.
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i feel like people who say that are weebs who think that everything similar to japanese media is a rip off bc japan is supreme or something. and this is interesting to me bc it feels like people saw nolanâs criticism of him copying a lot from satoshi kon and took it for other media. very weird
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What, did everyone just forget about The Running Man?
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I never even linked those two together at all⌠I mean I can see it now but itâs VERY tenuous.
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My friend group back in the early 2000's was obsessed with Battle Royale, and probably make up the rest of that 6. I have read both the book, read the manga, and watched the movie of Battle Royale, and each has an update to the media, and I think would of been a better if had re-read the book. I have also read the books and watched the movies for the Hunger Games, not sure if there a comic for THG, but big fan of both series.
BR, the program is there to instill a constant distrust of your neighbor's, allies, and friends, it is designed to throw a wedge into collectivist action, and picks a different class for Spring and Fall semesters in the movie and manga, the book has even more wild of the same frequency but each prefuncture doing it causing way more death. The manga has BR televised, but if I do remember the games updates and who has died is sent to the newspapers, and can't remember if there is a highlights real sent to the news, there is mentions of citizens taking bets on the winners. Shinji's uncle is labeled a terrorist by the goverment but is actually a resistance fighter and taught him stuff, and why his plan is to hack into the system and then bomb the building. BR also has the districts that detonate the collars at certain times, forcing folks to fight, and if no one fights in a 24hr period, everyone's collars goes off, forcing the fighting. Kiriyama and Shogo are both students in the book and manga, idk why they chose to make them volunteers. Shogo purposefully enrolls in a school that will being doing a game, after he survived and won one, his plan is to make 2 winners and show you can have friends and allies in this world, and collectievly can take down the system. Kiriyama is said to have been diagnosed as a psychopath, and in book and manga chose to play based on a coin toss. The love triangle isn't reallty one, Shuya Nanahara, goes by Shuya for most of the series, protects and wants to save Noriko for his friend and then likes her during the games, but he's one of the most popular and well liked boys in school, and does kill the one guy by accident, and his kills vary by which medium you look at. The movie felt way more focused on just the violence aspect, and didn't get fully into the world building or politics that the book and later manga get into.
I ain't got much to add to THG parts, since fairly well true and seems you revisted those more easily. Just the parts for BR felt kind of weak in on analysis.
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At the end of the Battle Royale book (the remastered version) the author explains where his influences come from, which are different from the Hunger Games author. Also I recommend the remastered version. If James would've read that one he wouldn't say the book is bad.
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@Celebrian13
5 months ago
Honestly, that kind of "last survivor tournament" trope is such a good vessel for commentary on society and it's current problems, it's no wonder we have several stories like that (add Squid Game to the mix) and they all feel distinct from one another, as they explore different issues for each culture.
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