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I love how I never had this issue. Having used iMovie first, then Final Cut Pro X, my reaction to switching to Premiere was: "WHY U NO MOVE?"
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Remeber when i started film school and we edited in Final cut pro 7.
When i asked my teacher why he said that FCPX sucked ass and that this was a school for people that wanted to take their work seriousy ;)
Later i started editing in Premiere which is basically just a better version of Final Cut Pro 7.
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My problem with the magnetic timeline was never that I didn't understand what it was doing. I totally understood it. I just didn't like it, because I don't want my timeline moving around on me like that. I prefer the more stable feeling of the timeline staying put unless I specifically move things. Sometimes I want gaps to remain when I move something. Gaps can be useful as placeholders. If I remove a shot with the intention of replacing it with another one, I want that space to remain while I go grab the other clip. I don't want it automatically closing, losing the correct amount of space in which to place the new clip, and then having to shove the new clip in there and maybe it's a different length, etc...
And also, sometimes you just want gaps. Like if it's a timeline that you're using for raw footage to copy and paste from into the edit timeline... you want to be able to chop up the clips and separate them and stuff... I don't want them automatically snapping together. I want some breathing room between them, so to speak. With a magnetic timeline, I'd have to take the extra step of throwing slugs or black video in between any clips I want to keep separated.
On a regular timeline, things just feel much more natural and stable and calm and in my control. A magnetic timeline feels relatively out of my control, and anxiety-inducing to me. It just makes things feel more messy and "in-play" rather than being concretely where I put it, IMO. Like I'd be constantly having to check the rest of the timeline after each and every edit "Wait, did anything happen I didn't want to? Did it mess up anything? Is the music track still synced..." And I'm sure that it always is or at least usually always is... but it would still give me that feeling. And if it did happen that I came across something that got messed up at some point... I would feel like I had no idea when or how it happened. With every edit I do affecting everything after it magnetically, every single action I do now becomes fraught with the possibility of messing up the rest of the timeline, so discovering something that got messed up during one of those edits now becomes a game of "Ok, which of the past 3000 actions I did actually caused this?" Whereas if things only move when I specifically move them, the chances of me noticing a mess up are going to be significantly higher because my attention is actually being paid to each and every move. Less chance my timeline getting messed up without me being aware.
The metaphor of it being like editing on a slope is quite apt. It IS like editing uphill. I don't want to be editing uphill. I like a nice flat, stable surface to edit on, please.
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I’ve been an editor for 21 years. I learned on a steenbeck then a crunch and punch then adobe prem 3 then final cut 3 to 7 then tried fcpx for about an hour then back to premier cc now on davinci resolve. In fcpx - The magnetic thing I can work with but just never understood why if I deleted deleted something on the timeline it would delete other things too. Creative Editing isn’t about speed either news editing is but not creative.
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I work with Adobe and final cut, and final cut is my favorite, just because I can to connect my thinking with the software...
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I’ve been editing since before the days of NLE software, starting with tape to tape AB roll and straight cut systems. I’ve used Media 100, FCP7, Premiere Pro, and now FCPX. I must say the magnetic timeline has changed the way I edit, and now I can get projects done in literally half the time. Editing speed is mostly limited now on the hardware, and even that has gotten so much better. Once you learn it, FCPX lets you just edit and gets out of the way. It’s incredibly powerful and intuitive, just very different from “traditional” NLEs that came before it.
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For large projects where annotations and tags are required, Adobe. For projects where serious audio editing is required, Adobe. For narratives that require more track layering and cutting (creative decisions), FCP X. For shorts and other digital content, FCP X. If you want to do grading, Resolve. If you need seamlessness between photo editing, animation, compositing, etc..Adobe.
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This was fantastic, thanks for sharing. I've been on FCP since 2006, and held off on the X switch for years. When I finally did (2014), it's changed my workflow and efficiency tenfold. Apple still has bugs they need to work out, but overall I like it.
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I think the argument "no one at the time thought it viable" goes both ways. For every innovation with a story of initial refusal turning into resounding success, there are at least ten that have been rightfully forgotten. That's why people distrust new things, it's not just irrational fear. Not jumping on the latest shiny with massive projects is good practice.
It's one thing to fearlessly bring innovation, and another forcing it onto users as the only way to go. Even if it proves to be great, forcefully breaking your users' workflow doesn't make for a good first impression.
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I still LOVE FCPX. I was an early adopter of FCP 1.2. I had some trouble with the magnetic timeline at the beginning, but after I came to understand it, I fell in love with it. Still cutting with FCPX in 2019.
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All you have to do is “Lift From Storyline” if you don’t want the magnetic timeline effect. Not a deal breaker
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I am an editor by trade and have been using AVID since the mid-90s. I always disliked FCP - it just didn't allow me to scale up to a large scale production and move through material fast - and the interface always seemed fiddly in comparison. When using AVID I barely touch the mouse cursor - and that is how it should be.
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Really good vid! I jumped from iMovie to Premier Pro, simply because it seems to be the software that most pro YouTubers use. The magnetic timeline sounds like both a blessing & curse - i can definitely see its advantage, & also where I'd be screaming in frustration.
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The guy who was editing on premier and he opened all those gaps is just clueless on using the system. You just lock the soundtrack that you dont want to move and just ctrl and just move the shot where you want. He was on an fcp tour. Is he certified to teach premiere to people then compare to fcp x? I worked with both systems and im way better off working on windows.and adobe.
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I've been a professional video editor for 20+ years, starting on AVID, moving on to Final Cut Pro and then to Premiere. I've used Final Cut X for a few projects and I found it clunky and frustrating. I have no doubt that there's an effective way to use FCP X if you put in the time to learn it; If you like using it, more power to you! But the idea that it is somehow MORE productive and creative a tool than Premiere or other editing software is ABSURD. Furthermore, this video tries to make Premiere look bad by showing an editor moving clips on the timeline in the least effective way possible. There are SEVERAL different techniques in Premiere that are equally effective as anything Final Cut X can do, but this video doesn't show any of them. Use whichever software works best for you, but be fair and honest if you're dissing another one.
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I've been avoiding this channel for months because I figured literally anybody who actually edits like a professional would name their channel anything but "This Guy Edits!!!," but I finally gave you a chance because I know the FCP7/FCPX trainwreck story like the back of my hand, so I knew I'd be able to calibrate my reaction. Sure enough, halfway through, you're like "I prefer to cut with FCPX whenever I can." Yeah. That's exactly what I was expecting for months. God bless, peace out.
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I went from a Windows based editor to Final Cut Pro X the day it came out. This movie, that you have made, sounds wonderful. It's hard to put into words, but I feel like we have been waiting on it to arrive.... even thought we didn't know it existed. I can't wait to see it. Thank you!
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I edit music videos on Final Cut Pro X and the first thing I do when I start importing clips is remove them from the magnetic timeline - i rarely plan ahead when making videos so most of the work I do in the edit is experimental and I find the magnetic timeline just gets in the way of my creative process...
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anyone who uses both premiere and final cut, how do you feel about complex projects? I do alot of greenscreen, vizfx lower-thirds and integrated motion graphics. In a normal project I might have 10 layers of video and 8 layers of audio. And none of these are single tracks running the length of the video, it's all cut up all over the place. Who handles complexity better? When I look at the magnetic timeline, the biggest thing I need is lots of dead-space for organization in the timeline. This track is all chroma replacement backgrounds, this track is on-screen lists, the track above it is adjustment layers to those lists... All I'm aware of now is that you can put in "black video" separators in final cut to space things out.
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5 years ago
This is the only channel I can think of where organizing documentary footage is a recurring topic and I absolutely love it.
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