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Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe | Lex Fridman Podcast #404
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TRANSCRIPT:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:15 - Assembly theory paper
21:45 - Assembly equation
34:57 - Discovering alien life
53:16 - Evolution of life on Earth
1:01:12 - Response to criticism
1:18:50 - Kolmogorov complexity
1:30:40 - Nature review process
1:51:34 - Time and free will
1:57:59 - Communication with aliens
2:19:57 - Cellular automata
2:24:26 - AGI
2:41:15 - Nuclear weapons
2:47:00 - Chem Machina
2:59:54 - GPT for electron density
3:09:24 - God

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@lexfridman

4 months ago

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Shopify: shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial - Eight Sleep: www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - AG1: drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil 1:15 - Assembly theory paper 21:45 - Assembly equation 34:57 - Discovering alien life 53:16 - Evolution of life on Earth 1:01:12 - Response to criticism 1:18:50 - Kolmogorov complexity 1:30:40 - Nature review process 1:51:34 - Time and free will 1:57:59 - Communication with aliens 2:19:57 - Cellular automata 2:24:26 - AGI 2:41:15 - Nuclear weapons 2:47:00 - Chem Machina 2:59:54 - GPT for electron density 3:09:24 - God

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@natei.3859

4 months ago

I love the attitude that Lee brings to scientific inquiry. "Here's an idea. I know I'm wrong; but how am I wrong, and how wrong am I?" The guy genuinely cares about advancing the conversation and creating opportunities for the next person to build on his ideas. It's cool to see.

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@GastonsGuitarCovers

4 months ago

It used to be if you weren't in these fields or a researcher you didn't have much access to conversations like these. I feel privileged to understand a solid 10% of what's being said.ā¤

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@jasonphillips3817

4 months ago

Its amazing to me how throughout this he openly admits to making things up as he goes along, or as he's talking he'll stop and say "oh! here's an idea that might build upon this topic". Its this kind of mind that is required for massive leaps in scientific understanding. So incredibly interesting to hear him speak.

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@cupajoesir

4 months ago

ā€œFirst they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.ā€ --- This is FANTASTIC. Thank you!

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@steamhackman

4 months ago

I'm only a few minutes in, but I wanted to take a moment to thank you for tastefully and helpfully adding in reference material, diagrams, and sources into the video. Amazing discussion and production value as usual.

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@jamesnjoroge1197

4 months ago

This is definitely the most beautiful piece ever done as of yet. Leeā€™s definition defy so many traditional norms we have adopted as truths. His uncertainty of randomness, refusal to accept predictability and view of time is mind boggling.

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@katyporter643

4 months ago

i was taken aback at 1:36 when bloke got emotional about the process. I appreciated this very much. It got real. I appreciate his tenacity. I appreciate Lex's holding the space for discussion- discourse. Thank you for being willing to be vulnerable, because science isn't just mechanical, it's as human as anything. As a teacher this is extremely helpful for me.

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@JamesTaylor-je6es

2 months ago

The sheer curiosity and inventiveness of his methods are astounding to see. We need renegade science like this.

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@Mrachsohallo

4 months ago

This is a guest I didnt know we needed. Not a usual academic scientist. He is deeply curious and can explain his complex thoughts in simple langague.. Its often the other way around.

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@sagar696

4 months ago

"The universe is not big enough to hold the future" This discussion is pure joy.

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@smmoney7415

4 months ago

This was the best convo with Lee so far, no doubt. The assembely theory was explained in a very informative and interesting way, while still a bit complicated for the nerds out there. But the fact that so many people got upset about the paper, the fact that its published in nature, and that he's so emotional about it just lets you feel the power of science. Power of the discovery, of the passion in the work done, the power of the many failures, and the power of the resilience to get through it. So much emotion comes through Lee here that I didnt see in his previous times on the podcast, and this is absolutely what the lex podcast is all about. What a great convo. Plus alot of talk about free will, questions about god, AI, nucleur weapons, everything gets a little touch here. Couldnt have asked for a better 3 hours of my life.

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@rjd53

3 months ago

It's always a pleasure to hear Leee Cronin. He is the most flexible and openminded scientist I 've seen so far online. He doesn't just propagate ready-made theories but he is continuously thinking while talking, himself creating novelty in the realm of ideas, at the same time ready to probe and test them. People like him make science interesting.

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@aatt3209

4 months ago

The bravery of those scientists who push to challenge the current thinking, in any field, is an arduous process, not intended for the faint-of-heart. This is an important topic and I thank both Lee Cronin and Lex Fridman for bringing this to the public's eye. I have learned so much from this conversation and cannot wait to learn more from Cronin on assembly theory.

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@MrSilver2nd

4 months ago

"ultimate randomness and ultimate complexities are indistinguishable until you can see a structure in the randomness... Until you can see copies"! That is a profound moment and when it is articulated in such simple digestible terms its potential becomes awe inspiring. Thank you for this.

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@denismoiseenko9100

3 months ago

This was an emotional rollercoaster, much more so than an average piece of fiction. I went from being very curious and enthusiastic to learn more about AT to transitioning into skepticism, to being really annoyed and honestly angry at Lee for seemingly avoiding answering direct questions and instead bombarding the audience with new eccentricities and dismissing criticism as a bunch of straw men, to questioning myself if I am so irrationally annoyed because I can see myself at his place (not really), to finding peace again and the commitment to learn more about AT even if it is not what I've anticipated, to becoming sympathetic with Lee and cautiously willing to hear more from him. Even if for the single fact that he gives a really good chance at practicing level-headedness and avoiding jumping to conclusions.

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@Christina-ri1lh

3 months ago

This is too hard to listen to as a background podcast like I can normally do - totally requires undivided attention. Very impressed

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@davemathews5446

4 months ago

So grateful for your work Lex! At about 1:17:30 Lee said something really interesting about learning in LLMs, and I would love to hear it explored more in the future. His point was that LLMs are not currently being taught in the sequential way that humans learn, meaning not the way we teach children. They do not get taught the basic fundamentals and then build on them over time towards more complex levels of comprehension and intelligence. They just get all types of information downloaded without any time related sequence of learning in the data set. I think this is a huge flaw in trying to build something truly intelligent. Cheers!

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@Soulab-oz9wf

4 months ago

This conversation makes me realise how smart Lex is

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@juniorsensu8329

4 months ago

Of all the guests, the Lee Cronin episodes are the best for me. I canā€™t quite put my finger on the reason why.

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