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@kurzgesagt

10 months ago

This video was made possible through a grant by Open Philanthropy. Check out the biorisk career guide from 80,000 hours: 80000hours.org/kurz-bio

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@dahat1992

10 months ago

The #1 asset we as humans have is the fact that scientists openly and freely share their knowledge with other scientists.

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@DavidIshee

10 months ago

As someone actually working in biotech who also has a home lab it’s not that easy. Most organisms aren’t available to purchase especially pathogens. As for DNA sequences it is monitored and I’ve personally been called by the FBI WMD directorate and the International gene synthesis consortium when they were checking up on what I was buying even though it wasn’t pathogenic. So there are public and private watchdogs on all this stuff, plus making and testing novel viruses isn’t as easy as this video makes it seem. Especially if you need a lot of human test subjects. If you want to know where the biological super weapons will come from it’s rogue states like North Korea. They have the money, the human test subjects, the ability to hide what they are doing and leaders crazy enough to try it. Also a group of biohackers working with biotech at home made and tested the first successful Covid vaccine months before any corporation and published all their methods and results online. If Covid had been a much worse virus and especially if it’s delivery had been weaponized by targeting government infrastructure like the CDC and the FDA. They might have been the only ones to actually make a working vaccine. Mostly because biohackers are decentralized and can work a lot faster since there isn’t any bureaucracy and they tend to test things on themselves. There is a very real possible scenario where a state makes a biological WMD and deploys it strategically crippling the corporate and government infrastructure leaving only a decentralized network of citizen scientists to respond. Let’s not regulate them out of existence please. Edit - in reply to the comments saying how can biohackers make a vaccine if they can’t make a super plague. Vaccines are much easier, the first vaccine was made in 1796, it’s not remotely the same scale of work. It’s the difference in tech and infrastructure that you would need is the same as what you’d need to go from making a toy robot in your garage as a hobby and making an army of military robots. Vaccines are just a lot easier to make than WMDs because they are old and simple technology that works with the amazing power of your immune system where plagues have to work against that power.

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@WalkinStereotype

9 months ago

I am very pleased to see people questioning this video, its messages, and sensationalism, all while adding correct information. As Kurzesagt gets influenced by donors and deadlines, the people are upholding what is needed

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@trevenimukherjee2956

8 months ago

As someone who has worked with an actual virus for completing a 6-month dissertation project, I had to sign around 7 different forms stating that I know what I'm gonna do at the lab, the kind of reagents I'm most likely gonna use, the people I'm gonna work with, the type of microbe that will be studied, and so on. Also, I was given limited lab access where the card only worked for 12 hours as I was doing my Masters and there was 24x7 CCTV surveillance. On top of all that, we all followed a strict protocol in sorting and disposing of any kind of lab waste we generated. So yeah, everyone kinda knew what I was upto from start to finish, and we did everything safely and cautiously. The idea that people could easily make a deadly world-ending microbe at home in the distant future is rather daft because it is very difficult, risky, and expensive to get your hands on even some of the most basic equipment, enzymes, and even a perfectly harmless microbe. Kurzgesagt, I do love your videos, but please be careful when talking about anything related to making a home-made bioweapon as it perpetuates the false idea that scientists are out there creating pandemics for the fun of it, and I mean this as a microbiologist.

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@thelastxgamer

10 months ago

Something is very wrong and different about this video. The people are faceless and generic. There are no birds. The video isn't broken into their usual kind of chapters, nor does it have an intro. They didn't promote this video on reddit like they usually do. Heck, even their sources document is cited incorrectly. Their bibliography cites a source about UVC lamps, but links to an article that doesn't have any mention of the claim. The biggest thing to me is that this video relies very heavily on a single source, and the author of that source received millions of dollars in funding from the sponsor of this video. That doesn't feel right to me, either. Kurzgesagt says in their finance video that they have contracts that prevent their grant givers from editorial influence other than suggesting topic areas. Their reliance on a paper published by someone who received money from the same institution makes doubt that claim. Something is just very wrong about all this. I can't say I'm happy with this video, it feels overly alarmist and downplays the benefits of the free sharing of information and scientific research. If I can't even trust some of the facts in this video, I'm not gonna trust the opinions, either. And I say this as a long-time fan, too. I really love what kurzgesagt brings the world. I just want some kind of explanation for why this all happened. How'd they get their sources cited wrong? How did they not see the conflict of interest in their main source? Why is the animation style and format so different? By all means, I'd love to be wrong. If I missed something I'd love to know. But at first glance, it really seems like something's up with this video. Edit: It actually is broken into chapters, it's just more subtle about it.

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@trees4227

10 months ago

Kurzgesagt, thank you for teaching me how to create a more destructive nuclear weapon! I'll test this in my back yard now, thanks! Update: It was successful, I shall detonate it in the WTC.

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@felixhenson9926

9 months ago

Pretty sure we all learnt during COVID that the most 'successful' viruses walk the line of fatality as extremely lethal viruses have no chance to spread and infect others. Even if you created one with a very long incubation period with sudden onset death this would provide a large window for people to get treated and slow down the spread (and its ability to spread during this incubation period would likely be limited by the fact you need to be having symptoms to transmit things often). This will always provide a limiting factor on just how lethal a virus can really get.

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@ppap57

4 months ago

my dads belt is still deadlier

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@spencerthomas4087

10 months ago

For the record, anyone with a relatively strong undergraduate physics education and some engineering experience knows how to build a nuclear bomb, as well as most of the constituent parts, with relatively accessible materials. The obstacle to building one is that fuel enrichment requires infrastructure that is visible from space and will quickly get you in a lot of trouble. How to do any of that is not really a secret at all.

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@Thorite_Gem

10 months ago

This video felt incredibly weird. Not only the structure, lack of faces, the alarmist tone, the lifelessness of the animation... What feels the weirdest to me is the sub-par sources, and the fact that the main source for this video was paid by the same organization that paid for this video. I will explain. (I apologize for how long this is.) I looked through the sources that they listed, and out of the 52 times they source something, 9 times Kurzgesagt sourced the same book. And of those 52 sources, only, to my eye, 13 were about the manipulation and study of bacterial/viral genes in any capacity. (There were 6 on nuclear weapons, for comparison). And about the claim of easy access to both materials and knowledge that the argument hinges on? There is one source about concerns related to easy access to genetic information, and one about easy access to DNA editing equipment. The source about easy access to genetic information (other than the book this video is based on) brings up several good examples of the risk involved with being incredibly open with knowledge about viruses and bacteria. It brings up case studies where scientists edited viruses, and published their results, in a way that was a cause for concern. Such as editing a mousepox virus so that it could bypass an existing vaccine, and publishing what gene editing was done to make that possible. The source does show an opposing opinion, which says that those with access to that information can then plan to counteract such a gene, if a virus like it were to be released on human populations. And this source, while intriguing, focuses wholly on the formal, laboratory-based research. Which this video decisively does not address, instead talking about, essentially, 'backyard biologists'. Which the second source talks about. This source isn't a peer-reviewed paper, or published in a scientific journal, unlike the first one. This source talks about DIY CRISPR kits - at home DNA editors. But the source makes no mention of infectious diseases, saying that these kits can ".... make bacteria and yeast change colour, produce a fragrance or live in inhospitable places, but their lives are short." The source says that there is very little that can be actually done to bacteria beyond this. Which does not back up the claim that pretty much anyone could have access to powerful gene-editing capabilities. As for the book - the primary source of this video. I am not inclined to read it in its entirety, but I will provide relevant quotes they listed, and break them down. For materials access: "DNA constructs of length sufficient to generate infectious 1918 influenza virus can now be obtained for US$1,500; coronaviruses cost approximately US$2,000, but typically must be enzymatically stitched together by hand prior to virus generation, limiting (for now) the number of capable individuals to those also skilled at modern biotechnology. The laboratory equipment and reagents required for these tasks can typically be obtained for less than US$50,000.” So... It doesn't mention who has access to such materials (making it seem like anyone could order it off the internet), nor does it say how easy it is to edit such diseases to make them bio-weapons. That is the only mention of material access. For information access: β€œSecurity concerns are less salient in the current culture of the life sciences, as evidenced by the number of projects explicitly intending to create, identify, and publicly share a list of viruses ranked by apparent threat level.” "Under the current system, a scientist who warns the world of a pandemic-class agent inadvertently provides widespread access to skilled "lone wolf" actors who rely on commercial DNA synthesis, as well as well-resourced actors who do not” His argument appears to be that publishing information about potential pandemic-creating agents or mutations gives people the information to create them... Without considering the opposite side of that coin - it also gives people the information to stop them. Overall... Not very convincing, to me, at least. The many comparisons to nuclear weapons, in his quotes, feel odd to me. It's the comparison between life, an ever-evolving, extremely complex system, to nuclear bombs and their proliferation, which is exclusively a weapon or energy source. There are no "cures" or "vaccines" for a nuclear explosion, but there is for viruses and bacteria. So while there is pretty much only danger in the democratization of information about nuclear weapons, there is undoubtedly upsides to the information on diseases. The collaboration and wealth of information that scientists had on the subject is precisely what led to the super fast discovery of a COVID-19 vaccine! But, solely the arguments aside... This was a weird video, very unlike most of Kurzgesagt's. The changing of the title and thumbnail (which is done solely for engagement - and Kurzgesagt hasn't shown they cared for that before). The fact this video was paid for by the same organization that paid the man who wrote the book this video is based on, essentially saying exactly what's in said book, the weirdly lackluster sources compared to normal videos, the bad analogy in nuclear, not looking at an opposing viewpoint, not going in-depth about something crucial (like who has access to viral materials), the odd structure, the sub-par animation.... I won't read too much into it, but I can say confidently that this is not the standard quality that I expect from Kurzgesagt, and that I am very disappointed in them for this. Thank you for reading this. Sorry that it's so long... But Kurzgesagt is a huge channel, doing a lot of good, I think, so I don't want them to go down the route of whatever led to this video being created. Edit: Spelling mistakes

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@ppmico

9 months ago

I wasnt sure whether the feeling I was getting from the video was based, but thankfully I can see in the comments that more people are noticing, I'm so glad critical thinking is not dead. I know very little about biology and chemistry but could notice this video feels like kurtzgesagt just repeating in their own style the worldview and ideas of someone else.

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@andreszejner

9 months ago

Im sure someone has said this, but the only reason the COVID vaccine was made so quickly was 1) due to decades of (fairly) open access research on coronaviruses, and 2) how all the flux of covid research was very accessible across the world during the early stages of the pandemic. Making research secret when it comes to public health will only do a diservice to the field, especially during catastrophies

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@narutouzu13

10 months ago

As a molecular biologist working on gene therapy using viral vectors, I can assure you that it is extremely difficult to avoid being tracked when ordering genetic components. Even though our biosafety level 1 is officially defined as "non-pathogenic material that is unlikely to harm the environment and humans," we are still obligated to report each case to the appropriate authorities and maintain meticulous documentation of our biosafety level 1 experiments. These experiments, which are considered safe according to the defined biosafety standards, are subjected to frequent monitoring by regulatory bodies. As you can imagine, things get even more strict when working with higher biosafety levels like viruses that target human cells. This time the kurzgesagt clip is more entertaining than informative.

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@acutedog9189

10 months ago

I'm definitely noticing that that's a recurring theme with Kurzgesagt videos; getting people's attention with something super scary or existential crisis-inducing, and then ending the video with "yeah but actually, you really don't have to worry that much".

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@jeffreycarman2185

9 months ago

Modifying existing viruses requires getting the virus and doing very specific work on it. If we could create microbes from just knowing the sequence of their genetic material and creating it easily, this could open up a Pandora’s box that would make ghost guns look benign.

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@phuongngokim7454

9 months ago

bro wrote batshit virus at 4:45 and thought we woudnt noticeπŸ’€πŸ’€

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@jinmushui1soul

10 months ago

I work at a community biology lab and it's actually pretty difficult to get virus, even just as gene DNA, even for non-pathogens. Then, as others have pointed out, you still need to assemble them. There is already a decent amount of due diligence and international collaboration, especially by the large biotech distributors that currently dominate the market. This is one case where the inevitable centralization under capitalism leads to safer systems. This is of course at the cost of access to the poorest communities and we could intentionally design regulatory systems while also maintaining the spread of knowledge and access to technological resources. This also ignores viral ecology...the reason that existing deadly viruses like ebola are much easier to contain than COVID has to do with differences in virulence: a long incubation time and a large proportion of asymptomatic infections. Often the traits that allow a virus to easily and quickly spread throughout a population also reduce its virulence as dead hosts (usually) can't spread the virus.

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@TimeBucks

10 months ago

You guys are amazing.

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@naawakweoseindizhinakaaz2052

9 months ago

I love the audio on your videos, i am a slightly hard of hearing but your audio is crisp and at great volume compared to hundreds of other content creators. Thank you!

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