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Date of upload: Premiered May 1, 2023 ^^
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THIS! I was told âbe mindful of how youâre feelingâ in therapy but was given NO guidance of what to do next. I have sensory issues and it was excruciating to be mentally present in overwhelming situations so I would dissociate. Being mindful was not the solution, learning to leave or modify bad environments was what I desperately needed. Mindfulness is dangerous when used lazily as a solution, instead of a tool.
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You know I used to hate Buddhism because I felt like it fit so neatly into an introspective capitalist framework that was uninterested in changing the world around it. Itâs also what we come away with when we learn the public school version of Siddharthaâs story. I always felt like his story was one of a rich guy learning to be at peace with the suffering of others. Iâm humbled to learn that I was wrong
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as a buddhist leftist and follower of ThĂch NhẼt Hấnh, this video is so important. especially during the last part, you beautifully captured the core idea that we are all interrelated on the basis of our collective suffering⌠and it saddens me to see mindfulness being co-opted and separated from that core idea, to see non-buddhist working class people be manipulated to dissociate from their own exploitation. thereâs still much work to be done but I am grateful that this topic is gaining more attention. thank you for your eloquence and contributions to our enlightenment.
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Iâm not a buddist, but this breakdown touches on a lot of what has pissed me off about the way a lot of jobs tackle mental health. When Iâve heard âmindfulnessâ touted in work itâs been a way to shift blame for stress and drops in productivity to workers. They take no account of the fact people are overworked, underpaid and burned out because of systematic failings from management, itâs just the workers didnât do mindfulness correctly. Before mindfulness was the buzzword we were told to be âresilientâ, to get better at âmulti-tasking and time managementâ. Itâs always cheaper and easier to make a person blame themselves for crumbling under pressures they have no realistic way to change.
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This stripped down meditation discussion reminds me of how yoga has been a practice that got stripped of its spirituality and philosophy and other practice components to make it marketable to the âthat girlâ girlies.
Similar, also, to how the maslowâs hierarchy of needs model was taken from indigenous culture and misappropriated, with parts of the pyramid left off and/or re-ordered⌠so now it says you must secure shelter & food & financial security before pursuing your identity, meaning, purpose, etc. (which was not the case in the original indigenous teachings)
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This was totally awesome! I used to be a psychologist, and although there's a lot of benefit to mindfulness, there are all these problems you pointed to! We have studies literally saying that for people with extreme depression, mindfulness-based approaches SHOULD NOT be used, because... yeah. It's like locking a kid in a room with their bully to "resolve their differences." And the mental health industry has SO many problems that basically amount to, "Which side are we on?" I've worked for organizations that made me feel like the ringside medic at a boxing match. People would come to me, get their wounds patched up and bruises iced, and then sent back into the ring to get beaten up even more. Corporations don't actually care about the mental health of their workers; they just like mental health techniques that make workers shut up. If they actually cared, there'd be way more talking about reasonable accommodations for mental health issues the same there are for physically disabled workers. But no, they use mindfulness so that when workers express anger, discomfort, or unhappiness, they can blame the worker's own inability/unwillingness to "be mindful" and "not focus on the emotion."
I absolutely loved all your dives into the history of Buddhist scholarship, the broad range of belief systems, the ethics of it all, and how Buddhism intertwines with 20th and 21st century history. Great stuff.
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I always felt like something was missing with all these "self help" and "mindfulness and meditation" advice apps/programs. Like sure, being able to understand yourself and meditate on things is a really important skill to have in life. You're better able to understand and communicate what you really feel, but it always felt like half of the process.
When this philosophy is limited to only personal changes and self improvement, you will find that there are alot of problems we face that cannot be solved by just improving one's self. This hyperindividualistic attitude is what drove me away from alot of this stuff. But recently now, I've been discovering that this isn't what the original philosophy was about at all. Really good deep dive into the corporatization of buddhism and philosophies like it. Couldn't really articulate what was so off putting about it until now.
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That anecdote about the homeless man, in the wake of Jordan Neely's death is just... holy shit man. Some people really do believe that when homeless people become upset or act hostile, that makes them "less worthy" or something, that they all must be meek and "know their place." Of course they'll lash out, they're in the worst possible position they could possibly be in, and everyone else is too caught up in their own shit to help the dude! Anybody with any rational thought would be upset to be in that situation.
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24:51: âCompromise is a part of functioningâŚI-really, I lost part of my soul saying that. Because I am very stubborn.â
ITâS NOT SELF-DEPRECATION IF YOU CALL ME OUT BY NAME & ADDRESS
Jokes mostly aside this was a brilliant video from start to finish. Everyone should listen to Elliot always, at all times, without exception.
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In my therapy sessions ny whole life, I was presented with mindfulness. It can be like, kinda helpful, but it was a bandaid so the people who had any ability to help me out of abuse as a kid didn't have to actually do anything helpful.
It was more important to teach me to "breathe" than get an abused kid out of an awful situation.
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Wonderful video! Iâve spent a number of years practicing Buddhist meditation and many of my best friends are cognitive scientists so I felt like leaving a comment from my own experience with McBuddhism.
In 2019 I was working a lower level job in a tech company that really focused on productivity. In March 2020, we started working from home and sensing that sh*t is gonna get real, I applied for and got a lead position that came up because I didnât fully trust the higher ups to consider the needs of my colleagues during this time. Well⌠turns out I was right because during the following year, the demands of productivity just got worse and worse basically because âdata shows that it can be done comfortably so letâs challenge ourselves for the sake of our customersâ.
While my knowledge of meditation and Buddhist thought enabled me to give some coping tips, what helped my team the most was my ability to just listen to them. Not me teaching them how to focus more. At the same time, hearing how higher ups were actually talking about the people they are supposed to guide and take care of, really taught me that in a corporate structure (even tho we were assured itâs a flat hierarchy lol) the people doing the majority of the work are really just seen as numbers. During official sessions they were using this corporate mindfulness speak but in private group conversations the same people outright said that others are just lazy and they need to get it together while most of the issues we were having were caused by the higher ups not understanding what the work we were doing actually was but still making decisions about it.
And this is common in most tech companies (not my first rodeo and I have many friends now working in AI etc). But surprise surprise: this does not fix issues on the long term. People were so stressed out (I talked way too many people down from anxiety attacks and had too many myself even though I had years of mindfulness practice under my belt), they became distrustful of the decisions of higher ups so it became harder to actually fix issues and our employee retention also went down (when I started working most people had been there for 3-4 years and in the span of 2 years, we were averaging about a year of working before they applied for positions in other departments. And this was a job that required a minimum of a year to train). I ended up leaving the company because I couldnât morally justify how employees were being treated and saw there was little that I could actually change. So long story short: only using the band aid of mindless mindfulness to get your workers to comply long term will actually end up costing the company more in the end.
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@JordanSullivanadventures
1 year ago
I really hate the trend of corporations going in hard for mental health for the express purpose of increasing worker productivity. Like at first you think, "oh that's nice, supporting workers and helping them deal with stress," and then you start to notice this insidious idea popping up all throughout the "mental health resources" that the only reason you should try to improve your mental health or take breaks or be compassion toward yourself is to get you back to work faster.
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