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Journalist Nesrine Slaoui has done a great job at giving French arab women a voice during the abaya debate.
Fatima Ouassak, Front de Mères, 2020
Catharine Lumby and Kath Albury, Too much? Too young? The Sexualisation of Children Debate in Australia, No. 135 â May 2010.
Mary Jane Kehily, Contextualising the sexualisation of girls debate: innocence, experience and young female sexuality, 28 December 2014.
Liza Tsaliki, Popular culture and moral panics about âchildren at riskâ: revisiting the sexualisation-of-young-girls debate, 22 April 2015.
Jessica Ringrose, Are You Sexy, Flirty, Or A Slut? Exploring âSexualizationâ and How Teen Girls Perform/Negotiate Digital Sexual Identity on Social Networking Sites, 2011.
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Isn't it deeply weird and worrying that 50+ politicians are openly obsessed with teenage girls clothing
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Labeling pornstars as "teens" is a huge problem, even if they're not.
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Holy shit, the response to that letter is absurd. The letter almost reads like a congratulatory youtube comment and yet the guy read it and reached right into his pants
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It's not uncommon that children have crushes on adults in their early teens, and it's not common to write "keep it up" letters to teachers, so if I was the teacher I'd be cognizant about that. Basically, a good response would be a carefully worded "feels good to know my teaching style is effective, I try my best for my students and getting direct feedback like this is rare" part before turning to pointing out that they've also done well to apply themselves to learning poetry, congratulating them on that, encouraging them to "keep it up" as well, and telling them to not rule out becoming a poet if it interests them.
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This ties into that mindset of "men can't help themselves when they're aroused so women need to be modest" like its some hypermasculine flex ie "if you are a male who doesn't think this way you are obviously not straight"
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when i heard the first lines of that letter i thought "god no please not an underage girl hitting on her teacher that is so uncomfortable" but when it progressed i was kinda relieved that obviously it wasnt anything other than her appreciating his teaching style. until you showed the teachers interpretation đđ thats auch a horrible situation to be in. i distinctly remember being a teenage girl and just being nice and comfortable talking to men but having to learn that the most normal things will be interpreted in really gross, disturbing ways. like even when i got more guarded, they would still find ways to make me uncomfortable by assuming i had sexual intentions at an age where the concept of having sex was completely unimaginable to me. and someone else thinking about me and seeing me in that way, before i myself ever did, was so intensely embarrassing, i still feel sick thinking about it today.
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what truly hurts is the fact that some people justify banning modest clothing oh âbecause in some nations women are forced to wear itâ.. but now you are forcing them not to wear it.. itâs just oppressing more women overall.. two wrongs dont make a right
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Its funny because I found myself thinking about this a couple of days ago. I was at a ice cream shop and i saw two girls, around 12, dressed in a provocative way and pretending to be adults, even smoking at some point. Don't get me wrong, I do think that a lot of men are obsessed with very young girls regardless if they are still childish or acting more mature, but I found myself wondering if that's really their choice or if they've been pressured to grow up this fast to be more accepted and keep up with the standards they see everywhere. Somehow it was sad to see that being and acting like a child is not considered normal anymore, especially for girls.
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I would say that for me, losing my innocence had nothing to do with sex. I'm American and I grew up during the Iraq war. When I was 17 and taking US history my teacher had us watch documentaries about various wars the US had fought in. I was assigned to watch a documentary about the Iraq war. For the first time ever I felt like I truly understood just how brutal my own country was and how we didn't even seem to see the Iraqi people as fully human. I see losing one's innocence as when someone starts to have a broader understanding of the world.
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I was a weird teen, and as it happens, a queer one. I did try to provoke people with my dress, but definitely not boys or men. I dressed as weird, conservative and feminine as I could, both to annoy the adults who thought I should be attracting boys and my fashionable peers. I just wanted to embody "different" since I did not consider lesbianism as a valid option yet. My interests, unusual for the time and place, also defined my clothing since innocence or provocation wasn't a consideration.
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I feel like the obsession with teenage girls is an obsession with the unpredictable. Especially in a time when a good portion of the western world is walking both towards and away from feminist values and ideals. I feel like we're making the same mistake with teenage girls that we've been making with teenage boys which is to completely ignore who they are as people and to focus on what we want them to be. For girls it's an overt sexualization and adultification and for boys it's a more covert one. The whole thing just weirds me out.
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It always seems to me that most adults completely forget what it was like to be a teen.
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If these people actually had the slightest interest in preventing the sexualisation of teen girls theyâd address the endless sexual harassment by their own peers and adult men. Theyâs address đ˝ and the harmful affects it has on how men view women and girls. Any woman Iâve spoken to about it says they were sexually harassed by adult men in high school far more than they are in adulthood. I was sexually harassed by adult men more often when I was in primary school than I have been since I lost my baby face in my mid 20s. The fuss about teenage girls clothing choices is part of the sexualisation they experience, not a solution to it
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4:55 It feels to me that the disappearance of the tween category is actually quite relevant in this respect. While tweens aren't sexualised from an adult perspective, I can't help but feel that there was definitely sexuality being expressed and played with in those times. It was in a way that would be more readily recognised by children of their own age, and while not entirely divorced from adult sexuality (a short skirt is a short skirt) was still recognisably childish or kiddy in a way that teen girls aren't really allowed to be now.
I think of the crushes I had on the Disney channel girls as a kid. They were all sexualised up to a point. They weren't wearing potato sacks and the companies definitely chose their actresses based on 'attractiveness'. But they retained a sense of being children and could be easily distinguished from an Instagram baddie or whatever.
So yeah, in a weird way it feels like tweenhood was the perfect way to allow kids to be more sexual than they were before, but without jumping feet first into adult sexuality. If you were following the Disney channel girls style, or the teen magazine stuff you could be romantic/sexual but in perhaps a more low-key and controlled way than posting thirst traps on snap chat at 13 with your entire school following you.
At least that's my impression as a millennial man who grew up with Disney channel. I can't say for sure if it's true though lol.
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He should be investigated just because of that ridiculous conclusion about that innocent but none-the-less scholastic letter to her teacher. Wow! What a jerk.
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Even when I was closeted and pretending to be straight, I never understood society's obsession with young women and literal children. It's gross and has only made me highly wary of straight men.
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When I've told my mom about the abaya ban, and my mom is religious but of a"christian" religion, she was a bit flabbergasted, lol. I live in France, but I'm from the US. In the States while we might be prejudice about foreign religions and cultures, for the most part, they are protected under the law, the religions and cultures I mean, so banning any religious garb in public spaces whether it's completely visible or not is almost unheard of in the US. But the abaya isn't even religious, hahahah, so I really don't understand it. The one that really gets me is banning swimsuits that cover a good portion of the body, whether it's a "birkini" or not. Here in France I don't go to the swimming pool unless it's an inside pool, I burn extremely easily and skin cancer runs in my family. But sunscreen is banned at most public pools in France, so I'm like, well, maybe I can wear a rash guard and swim shorts/leggings so that I don't get burned if it's an outdoor pool, but even that's not allowed, and there's no outdoor public pool in France in the areas I've been that do night swimming to accommodate, so indoor pool or nothing. When I ask people about the no rash guards or swim leggings, I get dumb responses like "cleanliness" and how bacteria builds up more with swimming clothes that cover more of the body, and I'm just like, that's bullshit, hahha
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The French government banning not only hijabs, abayas as well makes me want to rip my hair out. Schools LITERALLY hate girls showing even an ankle and yet when they want to wear long dresses that cover literally everything it's too ''foreign'' oh my godđ
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The stupid âboys will be boysâ argument is so full of shit, if someone has messed up getting called out seems natural. Yet the one who talks about the illicit behaviour often gets seen as âmeanâ, etc.
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@OverthinkingConde
7 months ago
"Innocence is the fetishization of inexperience.â I donât remember who said it, but it seems spot on to me.
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