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Date of upload: Sep 1, 2023 ^^
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Kind of agree with the conclusion that the response to albums like relapse and revival made Eminem shell up in terms of expressing his vulnerability with music. However, I think it's always sad when critics/people throw MMLP2 under the bus as if it wasn't one of the biggest albums of 2010s, and quite a complete project that looked back on certain themes & messages from MMLP in a more mature way. Also, I believe more people listen to Eminem than just his core fanbase, considering how many hits he has.
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Man Iāll never forget going into relapse thinking ādamn this is gonna suckā but by the end was blown away by how good it was. For a while I was just convinced that when you have low expectations, you can be pleasantly surprised. But I now know that in this specific case, that was bullshit. Cuz the reality is, this is an incredible album, and people just werenāt ready for it yet. Hip hop was at a weird point in 2009. Artists like T-Pain and Black Eyed Peas had a chokehold on the overall sound of this era. But people just wanted to dance. They werenāt ready for vulnerability like we are today. Donāt forget that just a year prior to this, Kanye dropped 808s & Heartbreaks and people HATED that album. But now today? Itās considered by many to be one of his best projects, and the album that birthed the sound of modern hip hop today. I think both 808s and Relapse are albums that had to come out when they did, despite people not being ready for them. Otherwise music would have never evolved to where it is today for better or worse. Those albums may not have been appreciated then but in the grand scheme of things, those albums will be greatly remembered as classics. Even artists like Picasso, Beethoven, Shakespeare and many others were seen as mediocre artists during their times.
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Relapse has the best production out of any Eminem album.
It's the first and probably last album of his we'll get where its 95% Dre beats. This was Eminem not trying to chase a hit song or trying to appeal to anyone but himself. It's a concept album which he never did before or after this one. Not to mention, the final track Underground is in a 5/4 time signature which is super rare in rap music. While the subject matter can turn away certain people, that was the point. His technical ability is also next-level. The flows he does on this are more creative than the super fast stuff he does now. His use of multi-syllabic rhyming is also perfectly balanced out with the substance in his lyrics. The only real issue is that the accents that take up most of the album can be jarring. I know Em has stated he used the accents to make the words rhyme better but I would argue that most of the rhymes wouldve worked without the accents. But also, if you need to bend a word to the point you switch nationalities, the rhyme wasn't meant to be. I mean, dude was able to rhyme 'toolboxes' with 'screwdrivers' flawlessly on Survival. The track Framed from the Revival album gives us a glimpse into what Relapse song couldve sounded like without the accents.
The fact that this was his first solo project in 5 years and getting completely sober and the whole concept is him being back on drugs and committing heinous acts on people is wild.
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Relapse is unique in that it's Eminem's one and maybe ONLY "concept album" that's ever been made by him, and that alone is what gives Relapse such a unique edge among his discography.
Though one thing I would like to see is how Relapse (2009) could potentially tie in with King Mathers (2007), his unreleased album and whatever tracks we know were made during his time away from the spotlight. Fun fact, "Careful What You Wish For", and "Beautiful" were originally made for King Mathers, his retirement album made between Late 2006, and very early 2008, and "My Darling" was made at the tail end transitioning into when he finally moved towards the Relapse concept in 2008. So... tracks carried over.
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I think people were kinda soured on Eminem after the silly tracks from his previous LP Encore that ended up as singles, like "Just Lose It" and "Ass Like That", which made it hard to take Em seriously. He said a lot of that LP was rushed out to fill gaps caused by leaks, but most people (myself included) didn't know about that. So for us, the album was overshadowed or even defined by those few bad tracks.
It wasn't helped by Curtain Call, a collection of Eminem finest accomplishments, coming out with "FACK" as the first track. Personally I like FACK, it's pretty funny and the beat is good... but it felt like such a stark contrast to the tracks that follow it, especially with FACK being right before The Way I Am. Gone are the tracks that you grew up with, the stuff that got you to fall in love with Eminem. The Way I Am told us who he was *then*, FACK told us who he was *now*.
Then Relapse drops... and it's still full of Em putting on accents. And 3AM as a single was OK if you like horrorcore, but going so hard in that direction was kinda new and too out there for a lot of fans. He'd talked about dark and personal stuff before, but now he's rapping about drinking someone's bath water. Plus all the stuff referencing grape (with no G), and bars about sexualising child/teen stars, it was getting kinda stale for an audience that might have started to wonder if they ever really liked that, or just put up with it because the rest of Em's stuff was dope.
Relapse certainly has merits, but it's easy to see why it wasn't well received. If there really is an alternate history where we got a better Eminem discography (11:28), I'd say that's it's a timeline where the Encore leaks never happened, or Em and Dre decided to just ignore them, so it didn't get filled with stuff like "Big Weenie". But ultimately, it wasn't the public that decided Eminem's future, it was his own choices. Critical reception can make you better, but when you're on Eminem's level, only he could make himself fail.
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@smaaron_j_46
8 months ago
I see Relapse as the Zelda: Wind Waker of the rap game. Not a lot of people liked it when it first came out, but as the years went on, people started to love and appreciate it more
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