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I worked for a civil engineering firm that had a long project on a small town's water system that was only billing 30% of their pumped water. They hired us to write up a rate report to try and raise the rates to their customers to make up for the shortfalls their utility system was having. Instead we recommended that we actually do a system audit, and if we couldn't find improvements then we'd have the strong evidence that they needed the rate improvement. The town council balked at our cost but agreed.
Within 3 months we found and repaired 3 big "hidden" main breaks that brought their billable water up closer to 50%, and after testing all their meters we found that only about 10% were giving actual readings and most of the rest were under-reporting. By the time we were done fixing all the broken mains and faulty equipment they were around 80% billable and didn't need to raise their rates. I remember the head of the Town Council being VERY surprised that fixing things for real worked better than the band-aid patches that their water/sewer/dog catcher town manager kept doing.
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As a professional engineer working in the Jackson area, I commend you for seeing the importance of this issue and covering it much better than any news media reports ever have. I think you reported most of the facts accurately and reported the story without trying to assign blame. Here is a fact you missed however. I believe the City of Jackson currently has only one professional engineer on staff. They have been critically short of engineers for years. Some exceptionally talented and dedicated engineers have served on the city staff during the nearly 30 years that I have been privileged to work with them, but they have almost all been lost to retirement, lack of pay, over work and lack of support. The Jackson water crisis illustrates the fact that engineered system need qualified engineers to oversee their operation and maintenance, or they will fail.
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As a controls engineer in the water industry, this is a great overview of the responsibility the industry has, and an embarrassing reminder of how bad things can get. I interface with a lot of engineering firms for the design of water/wastewater facilities, and this channel does an excellent job at showing the concepts involved. Thank you.
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I live in a city next to Jackson. I moved here, away from Jackson years ago. Jackson used to be a great city. But now it is riddled with crime and high taxes. The city council and mayor don't have the leadership or foresight to solve these problems. And yes the corruption is as bad as the finger pointing. It is not just the water supply that is bad in Jackson. The streets are a mess with pot holes deep enough that a senior girl in high school was killed when she drove into one. All the business have left for surrounding cities and counties. Jackson could have been the hub of the south since it is between Dallas and Atlanta and between Memphis and New Orleans. But the slimey greedy leadership has let it all go to waste now. And the worst thing is they keep getting reelected....
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I've been in the water/ wastewater industry for 13 years (on the lab side of things) and I think your explanations in this video are great. I don't think most people know how complex a water system is, including the people running the city. Hopefully this incident and Flint will persuade our leaders to listen to the professionals in the industry about funding and public works. Thank you for bringing attention to this matter.
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As a resident of Mississippi, I’d like to say how accurately you depicted this. Much of the city of Jackson’s infrastructure is outdated and barely handling its population. A lack of effective public transportation and aging electrical and water utilities is turning the city into a madhouse. Plus I’d really like to say I enjoy all your videos. I LOVE Civil engineering projects and seeing the science and logistics of putting it all together. Great job on your channel, it’s one of my favorites on YouTube.
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Whenever there's civil engineering projects, people focus in hard on the bottom line: "What's it going to cost?" When the more relevant question is, "What's it going to cost NOT to do it?" When it comes to water infrastructure, we were taught that by Professors Cholera and Typhus a couple generations ago. They may have to come out of retirement to teach us again.
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Excellent video. I worked in the industry and your video is on target. One town I worked in had aprox. 30 % of treated water go out in leaks. I had a company come in and do late night examination with listening devices on the hydrants to locate the leaks. In several places the water went to streams or ponds undected. One lady's duck pond dried up when we repaired a major leak. She was not to happy. Great video and well done. Thanks
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If you haven't heard of it, definitely look into Philadelphia's Green Storm Water Management system. As an alternative to a large sewer expansion the city has started building green infiltration areas, such as roof top gardens, permeable pavement, and retention basins in public spaces. I was able to work on that project with the department of water and really found both the political and engineering side of it fascinating.
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As a WTP Operator, everything described in this video is our worst nightmare. Occasional BWA's are common, but this would be horrible. My hat is off to those operators in Jackson who actually had to deal with this while not being compensated fairly. I hope they find better jobs at other facilities and leave the city of Jackson as soon as they can. This is exactly what happens when you don't maintain your infrastructure. This all started on a political level, as most issues do.
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