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āDo not fear the truth, just pursue it.ā
Thanks to both of you for sharing this story.
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In my experience with KJV only'ism, I didn't know it was possible to have true faith, and have assurance of God's salvation, unless I had a flawless copy of all scripture. That is how my faith was framed for me. So, if I had gone to South Korea, as a missionary, I would have to resort to my KJV in order to teach people to have confidence in God, and have faith. I believe the biggest issue in all of this is this.... Many people begin the gospel with the KJV, and belief that it is flawless. Then, once a person knows they have a flawless text, they can have the ability to truly have faith in the gospel. So it's the KJV + the gospel, that enables a person to be saved.
On one hand, demanding to have a flawless copy of all scripture in your hand, in order to have confidence in God, is a bit like doubting Thomas who demanded to hold perfection in his own hands in order to believe. The truth is, that if all you have is the gospel of John....you can have true faith, and be saved....it could have a couple flaws....it could have a coffee stain....and you could still read that, believe that, and find the truth of the gospel... And until KJV only people realize this, they will always resort to the KJV as their baseline for being able to trust God. Take that away from them, and they will doubt God. Hopefully they never wake up in 1610....because that could undo their entire faith.
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Wow, it's great to hear from a South Korean on Mark's channel, which I watch often.
I'm also a South Korean from South Korea and was once involved in the KJVO movement and am now an ex-KJVO. There are currently a lot of divisions in Korea over the KJV. There are currently three main KJVO groups in Korea that are hostile to each other. (In addition to Lee and Jung, whom Mr. Jo mentioned, there is Yoon's group. Yoon's translation first appeared last year, and now Yoon's group is the common enemy of Lee and Jung's group, and now pastors who use Jung's translation have formed a council to investigate Yoon's translation), and they are slandering each other, saying that their group has a better translation of the KJV. It's very tragic. Mr. Jo's experiences and feelings regarding the KJV are very similar to mine, and I sympathize with him and pray for his future studies and ministries. Thank you both for sharing your stories.
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Josephās closing statements about humility were so encouraging! As was your mention of the parable of the unforgiving servant. Loved the interview!
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My testimony, my wife's testimony, is very similar to that of Jo and his wife. I appreciated this video so much. Very edifying.
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Seeing how this KJVO mindset is manifested in other cultures serves to clarify its effect and its detrimental impact on the Church in America and worldwide.
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@14:00 sums up Dr. Ruckmanās whole argument in 50 seconds! Perfect synopsis!
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The exact same thing is true in Brazil. There are both TR onlyists who read the old portuguese translation based on the TR (Almeida Corrigida Fiel, for ex) AND people who actually read one of the Portuguese translations of the KJV, like the BKJ1611 (BĆblia King James 1611).
With the same arguments and trash talking other modern translations.
One of the reasons some prefer the BKJ to the ACF, funnily enough, is because it uses less archaic Portuguese than the ACF.
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So I attend a KJVO church myself. And honestly sometimes I like to read through the Translators preface that is in many of the Bibleās in the pews. It serves as a good reminder that the translators reiterate 3-4 times they clearly werenāt for their translation to be the final translation ever, as their intention was just to make a ābetterā translation than what was currently available.
But anyway, this week I noticed we had an American Bible Society edition in a pew. I was reading through it, and in the back it had an extensive list in excess of 500 āArchaic and Obsolete wordsā that this KJV itself was providing clarity on its meanings.
This specific KJV edition itself was against KJVO lol.
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What an inspiring and touching testimony. Thanks for having this guest, Mark.
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So thankful for this episode. I went to Crown and really praise the Lord for my time there. While I have grown in my understanding of Bible translation since those years, my time there was invaluable to me. š I appreciate the attitude and respect given for those that you disagree with! Praise God for His Goodness and faithfulness!
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What a testimony. His statement about being closest to the cross, when he was abandoned by the people he loved, is profound. Great interview. So glad the Lord placed this channel in my path, as my walk had me introduced into KJVO church during pandemic. I'm so grateful bc the church was the only one opened during that time. Yet it taught me about the danger and division this group is causing to the body of Christ, and I've helped a few others thru my experiences. This channel was a huge help for me to walk away and warn others.
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Not just in South Korea, but the KJV only-ism mindset is also in many Japanese churches! Itās amazing how many different church leaders over here will cling to just a single translationā¦
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Iām in Sanford, NC. Not far from Cary. Great to hear your story Joseph Jo. Blessingsā¤
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Hey Brother Mark, another awesome conversation! I attended PCC in the 90s and happened to study under Dr. Johnson. At the time when I graduated (1995), Dr. Johnson didn't seem so dogmatic about the KJV as he would after the release of the VHS PCC produced a couple of years later. Dr. Johnson, Dr. Mullinex, and a couple other professors basically taught us the Byzantine Priority theory (though they usually referred to the Majority/Byzantine Text as the TR). They were very clear that the secondary inspiration was ridiculous and even invited non-TR advocates to guest lecture on occasion.
Unfortunately a lot of what came afterward was the result of a break in fellowship between PCC and Bob Jones University over the issue of the Critical Text. If I remember right, some BJU professors began to criticize and attack PCC for refusing to utilize the CT in their seminary. So PCC filmed a documentary promoting the TR in response and sent it to fundamentalist churches throughout the country. I wonder how much of an impact this had?
But this is why I'm often a little sensitive to the Collective's efforts to combat KJVO advocates. I think a lot of innocent TR and Majority Text advocates get lumped together with KJVO by the Critical Text community.
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I just heard of kjv only teacher Gene Kim, of REAL Bible Believers channel. He seems extreme. š®
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"KJV Onlyism" Is (respectfully) just another form of identity politics. I'd argue, if any flag be plant, its in the KJV because of its rooted history as "the standard". That which (arguably) the modern translations were modeled after. Sort of. Mark Ward, I appreciate the discussion forum you've begun here. God bless! ā
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I sometimes wonder if it would be more beneficial, especially for memorization, to only have one Bible version? But, I have noticed that some of the NT allusions to the OT Scripture passages are not necessarily word-for-word. Even when quoting the Bible off by heart it's maybe not the words themselves, but the spirit in which they are conveyed is what's important, I think.
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What frustrates me so much is when someone tells me the KJV is without error, I have asked what is the perfect Bibles before 1611 and almost without fail, people do not tell me and make fun of the question and imply I'm idiotic for asking it..................... You also mention "mansions"......so often I see people today have a mental framework of "Gone with the Wind".....and it is NOT like that.
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Mark, thank you again for having me on your YouTube channel! May God use our testimonies to glorify himself and draw many of his children closer to the truth!
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