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I saw someone say that Dani is able to contact Jamie but choses not to because she knows the horror of being haunted by a dead loved one and I think that makes sense. like instead she choses to make her presence known when Jamie is sleeping (If you go back to the opening of the show you can see Jamie glance at her shoulder, as if she had felt Dani's presence, and that Kills me)
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i've thought a lot since watching the series about why dani's death didn't really bother me in terms of the bury your gays trope, and I think like you said it comes down to the moonflower scene and the way their love isn't viewed as inherently tragic or not worthwhile just because of how it ends. their love is thematically shown to be something meaningful and positive and worth all the work that goes into it even if it's not permanent. especially compared to rebecca and peter, a relationship where one person is so focused on making it last forever that they cause the other immense suffering. dani and jamie's relationship isn't permanent, because nothing is, but it's good and peaceful and meaningful for the time they have together
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It's also interesting to compare how Viola and Dani handle their slow, inevitable deaths respectively. Dani's willingness to go in order to protect Jamie is exactly what Viola couldn't do. Viola held on desperately, to the point that she was willing to hurt the people she loved in order to maintain an illusion of the life she'd wanted. It just adds another layer to the love vs possession theme.
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I think the mirror thing with Dani is a big metaphor for shame. She literally can’t look at herself. I do agree that the ghost is a manifestation of her guilt, but it’s also a manifestation of shame, which she has to release before she can kiss Jamie 😭
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I love your description of Jamie: a very attractive northern lady
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I saw some discourse on tumblr that the haunting could be a metaphor for dementia, considering Owen's mom and how he talks about her. The fact that those who are haunted are tucked away in memories and slowly fade away, forgetting their identity, their future and past really checks out. Especially because the show relies a lot on characters remembering things and how the line between memory and reality practically dissappears on Hannah's' episode (which was my fave of all season btw)
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i get the criticism of Bly manor not being "scary" enough but that wasn't really what they were going for i think. it still is a "haunting" in the truest sense and i can't imagine anything more horrifying than losing the love of your life and being haunted by the what ifs (Owen), the guilt (Henry) or the grief (Jamie) for the rest of your days
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majority of my time while watching this series was spent chanting “lets go lesbians!” whenever Dani and Jamie were in a scene together
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one thing I really liked about bly manor and it's kinda hard to articulate this, but I liked how the main character was gay, and her love story became a centerpiece for the entire show, yet bly manor is not marketed as a show about lesbians, the premise of the show is not that it's about 2 women falling in love. The premise of the show is that it's psychological horror thriller taking place in a haunted house. I feel like almost every other thing I can think of where the main character is gay and has a gay romance, the gay romance is the entire point of the show or movie or whatever. Like brokeback mountain the whole idea of brokeback mountain is centered on gay cowboys. Now I don't think there's anything wrong with something like Brokeback Mountain or Call Me by Your Name or anything like that where the primary conceit of the movie or show is it's some kind of LGBT story and that it's going to center around LGBT issues. there was something so refreshing about Bly Manor though in that it was primarily meant as like a horror story that happens to have lesbians in it, and not only that, it's a horror story that happens to have a lesbian as the main character. I feel like most of the time when you have a "happens to be" type of character, they're almost always a side character, and there's also almost no acknowledgment of what it's like to be gay, and they may not even get a romance, and often these side characters have tragic ends or are hardly present. I love the feeling of being able to be somewhat represented in media that is not specifically catered to being an LGBT film/show, but that simultaneously doesn't gloss over the experience of being gay. As a gay man and a fan of action as much as drama, one thing I've always wanted was a classic action flick like John Wick or Die Hard or something, that very much is first and foremost an action movie, but when it comes to the inevitable romantic subplot with our badass hero, his love interest happens to be another man.
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I think I saw someone say something regarding that first shot where Jamie wakes up in the hotel room. You can see Jamie smiling before she wakes up and then when she does it slowly sets in where she is and the reality she is in. She then looks over at her shoulder. That's the same place where we see Dani touching her in that last shot of the series. I saw people were interpreting this as Dani has always been with her and when Jamie sleeps at night she tucks her away into a happy memory of the two of them. Idk that's just an interpretation 😅
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i was watching it, and jokingly pointed out that jamie was gay by the way she was sitting and then live five minutes later it became very obvious that her and dani where both wlw lol
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Bly Manor i my favorite lesbian representation Ive ever seen. Their relationship felt so real and its a big reason I realised im a lesbian. Dani dying really upset me for that reason but I love a tradgedy so i still adore it.
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if you’d like to envision more of a happy ending, my first interpretation of it was that since the gardener told the story to Flora and Miles, their subconscious remembered, and remembered Dani, freeing her from the spell. But that’s my lesbian optimist side talking. 🌿
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Haunting of Bly Manor made a lot more sense to me once I read an analysis that mentioned how it is an adaptation of SEVERAL ghost stories written by Henry James, in addition to Turn of the Screw (some of these stories are actually episode titles):
-The Romance Of Certain Old Clothes (Viola and Perdita's story)
-The Jolly Corner (Uncle Henry and his evil businessman double)
-Sir Edmund Orme (Dani's dead fiance, Edmund)
-Owen Wingrave (the character Owen, the bit with the dead parents' bedroom, the little ghost boy)
-The Great Good Place (Dani leaving an established life in America to find peace, the children's idea of being tucked away to a forever home)
-The Pupil (Miles at school)
-The Two Faces (this one is a bit of a stretch, but the major themes carry over)
-The Way It Came (same as above)
-Altar of the Dead (Mrs Grose and the candles)
-The Beast In the Jungle (Dani waiting for Viola and death at the very end)
-Portrait of a Lady (Main character in this story is named Isabel, like Viola's daughter. The actual plot is similar to the unhealthy romance between Peter Quint and would-be lawyer Miss Jessel)
It's not Henry James' fault that only one of his stories is well-known asjdkhf
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damn, you got me tearing up at the end of your video. I love the fact that Dani and Jamie talked about love and ownership being opposite and how at the end Dani wouldn't take Jamie's life as ownership in death. To me maybe that's why Dani isn't trapped at Bly manor like her selfless love has broken that curse. And with Jamie telling Dani's story Dani wouldn't slowly fade.
Also I adore that Mike Flanagan got what a ghost story essentially is: to love and to be loved is just as to haunt and to be haunted.
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Dani's fiancé died because he was straight, the real representation we were looking for all along
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I was crying a lot, but at least this one (as opposed to the hill house) did not left me traumatised, and just hopeful
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I was not expecting the lesbian story line but boy I welcomed it!!! When I first saw dani and Jamie together I said to my partner...please be gay please be gay!! I was so excited to see a lesbian storyline that wasn’t sexualised 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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its interesting also how when dany is being haunted by a straight man he is always touching her shoulder and wrapping his arms around her as if to say that she is his and is trapped into the straight normativity and only when she finally lets go with jamie does he go away
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3 years ago
I appricate that Dani and Jamie got to live happily together for 13 years. Usually when gay characters die it's when they're just about to achieve happiness.
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