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Liberation vs Assimilation in Queer Cinema
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Should LGBT cinema try and emulate mainstream movies - or forge its own path? Including examples like One Day At A Time, Modern Family, The Birdcage, La Cage Aux Folles, Dragon Prince, Skins, She-Ra, Moonlight, Pride and more. This is the second part in my series about the future of LGBT cinema and representation.


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@rosefox4245

4 years ago

"meant well" doesn't equal "done well"

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@OctagonalGolbat

4 years ago

"Stay with me, there's no math in this" - This is peak gay culture

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@Housewarmin

4 years ago

I just wanna say MOONLIGHT is one of the best LGBT films to date. It shows a black closeted man, and it is phenomenal. And it's so real and true to black culture.

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@miche8868

4 years ago

"don't bite the hand that feeds you" is so weird because it acknowledges that cishet people are feeding us and they are in power and that non cishet people are subject to their will

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@ColossalRay

4 years ago

I think I would have been more happy with Cam and Mitchell's first kiss being framed by Mitchell's fear of public intimacy if they had given a different reason. If, instead of being uncomfortable with displaying affection because daddy issues, it was actually from a fear of backlash. Even though he knows his family love him and accept him, it would still make perfect sense for a gay man to feel uncomfortable displaying his gay affections in public spaces in front of a world that, especially at the time, weren't too happy to see it. "I accept gays but I wish they wouldn't rub it in our face" is something we hear a lot, even now. So if Mitchell's fear of intimacy was because of THAT, it would be more realistic and it would have illustrated a positive moral for the audience, that chaste affections between gays are no less appropriate than hetero romance in public. I guess that kind of stance would have been too political for modern family's audience though.

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@yororororo2042

4 years ago

I grew up watching Modern Family, and really watching it I just grew up believing that gay couples were normal and that was that, I didnā€™t know until I was older that it wasnā€™t something everyone accepted. Really tho, it has its stereotypes but it really did normalize LGBT+ relationships for me as a kid and what made me comfortable with coming out myself to my family, because they loved the show too and never had a problem with the relationships in it (besides Hayley and Dylan, they thought both of them could do better)

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@melekpond1213

4 years ago

Heck yeah one day at a time

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@nottheseawitch

4 years ago

I'm pansexual and feel so excited when there is pan or bi representation but so often the story line doesn't sit well with me - I still think it's often shown in an overtly sexual way, like a kink or fetish for heterosexual cis men. I think there is a middle ground I tend to take with my reaction - rather than just being grateful and not biting the hands that feed you, and rather than ignoring the progress, albeit small, that we've made, I'd say my general feeling is "Ok cool that I see more of myself represented, but next time let's....(insert constructive criticism)".

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@cassidyflame2885

4 years ago

I always think itā€™s weird when I see a bunch of straight ppl and one gay character in a group of friends in movies or tv shows Iā€™ve never seen it irl. In my group of friends all my friends are bi or gay or something like, we didnā€™t even seek each other out or anything it just happened this way. So when I see it done in movies I can never relate to any of the characters lives or problems. The only thing I remember relating to is the YouTube series Camilla šŸ˜‚

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@Liv-uz1dz

4 years ago

honestly just becaue Mitch and Cam were allowed to kiss in season 2, doesnĀ“t change, that 8 seasons later, theyĀ“re still not treated equally to Claire and Phil. While the straight couple shares cuddles and kisses in many scenes per episode, all the gay couple gets is Mitch touching Cams shoulder every few episodes. We still canĀ“t call that equality odaat treated Elenas and Sids relationship very well. Sure they donĀ“t share many kisses either, but IĀ“m convinced that, that is because they donĀ“t want to sexualise two young girls, who are under 18. They still have a very loving and pure relationship that is treated like every other teenage romance.

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@milomonaghan418

4 years ago

This is what I need after being subjected to my dead name at the dentist. I love your videos šŸ’•

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@TheStitchess

4 years ago

Iā€™m still crying over one day at a time getting cancelled

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@eelnetflix5196

4 years ago

I highly recommend She-Ra: the Princesses of Power!! It has such amazing representation for people of color and people of all body types and LGBTQ+ people it's PHENOMENAL

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@omerk1860

4 years ago

Actually Mitch's inability to show physical intimacy in public was something that made me feel represented.

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@SED779

4 years ago

Have you seen Schitt's Creek? Patrick and David kiss all the time (Davidā€™s pansexual, Patrick is gay). Itā€™s on Netflix

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@belle3071

3 years ago

another great addition is bojack horseman-- todd coming out as asexual was so well done, and one of the best representation of characters straying from the sexual binary i've seen to date,

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@fifteefoolish4879

4 years ago

i made a audible 'oooOo!' sound when i saw this pop up

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@laterkater4213

4 years ago

So glad to see One Day at a Time get props for the great way they treat queer issues. Elenaā€™s story had itā€™s ups and downs, like her mother and grandmother trying so hard to be accepting but not having a clue (they worked on it and did independent research ā¤ļø), to the rest of the family who outright dismisses/forgets an entire gay wedding because itā€™s uncomfortable for them (including the couple in the family but referring to them as friends), to her father who reacts really badly and has to go away and work on his own issues (over two seasons) before finally publicly apologizing just when she had given up hope he ever would. And outside her family sheā€™s both fully supported in opening a GSA at school but also verbally attacked in public for holding hands with her SO Syd which means she doesnā€™t want to leave the house. I cry every time I watch it! Also this video is great and your graph is a really interesting way to think about queerness in movies!

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@sofdemi8042

3 years ago

The fact that I, a bi musical theatre kid, have never heard of La Cage Aux Folles is criminal

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@lyraavdeeva5819

4 years ago

I think we should also talk about the other great gay character (in my opinion) - Mac from "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia". While writers struggled to understand LGBTQ+ people at the beginning of the show, through these 13 seasons we see them gradually developing one of the most complex gay characters on TV. It took this character many years to come in terms with his sexuality due to the emotional abuse he suffered from his parents in childhood and due to his unbearable stubbornness and due to the fact that he's a Catholic, but when he comes out, we see him much more happy and open about his feelings, we see more violence in him. Almost every character from Sunny is a terrible person who is unable to overcome themselves, but Mac is the only one who changes for the best while portraying new kinds of problems - some gay men's bad treatment of women, for example, and the fact that you still can be gay and misogynistic. I cannot express enough how important it can be to see characters like this portrayed in the media when you live in a country like Russia. (Sorry for possible mistakes, by the way)

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