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Don't know who stated this - "God doesn't care who does the flying - as long as flying takes place". Many come to the same insight at the same time. And one being is credited with the totality of its coming into being - when it came into consciousness for many. I see 'movement' as that which brings into being (consciousness manifest) - water is that which facilitates that - a rock becomes soil - earth brings forth plant form - hence animal form. Rudolph Steiner's insights points out how we study and see things - without questioning the movement of the 'finger' that 'moves' all things in the first place. LOVE this sharing of insights shared here THANK YOU all.
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The focus of any philosophy is about what is regarded as reality. To the Materialist, matter is reality. To the Idealist, consciousness is reality. From Sheldrake's perspective, he seems to identify reality as energy where the source or cause of energy is a trinity of consciousness. But that to me is still an idealist perspective where consciousness is fundamental.
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Rupert's answer about "Is he an idealist or how does he position himself?" from 2:45 - 9:22 is great. I need to timestamp this to send to all my friends. What a great little summary of my own view but more clearly and articulately summarized (or just in another's voice).
Beautiful laying out of a trinitarian ontology (panentheism). Although the lines btw that and pantheism become difficult to draw...
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Thank you, all of you!!
I am fortunate again to be able to listen to this enlightening discussion.
I have been aware of Krishnamurti for years.
Mr. Sheldrake, was that you and David Bohm and many others speaking with Krishnamurti many years ago?
Plus, I found through gaining books by Sonu Shamdasani, "The Redbook," Libra Novus edited and with an Introduction by Sonu Shamdasani and other Jungian analysts informative.
I love philosophy, history, science, religions, literature, art, and creativity.
I have bought both books, also by Dr. Iian McGilchrist and have been fortunate to have listened to others with various backgrounds in many different fields, discussing with each other how we all may work together towards the betterment of humanity.
I was fortunate enough to watch Mr. Sheldrake and Bernardo Kastrup,in some of these conversations with Dr. Iain McGilchrist.
Heraclitus stated that one may never step into the same river twice.
A general definition of civilization: a civilized society exhibiting the fine qualities of truth, beauty, adventure, art, and peace.
Alfred North Whitehead
🙏❤️🌏🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵
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Bernardo and Rupert are undeniably two brilliant minds. I don't consider myself up to the task of refuting what they say. What I ask myself is how useful what they say is in reducing my suffering and the suffering of humanity in general. Refuting metaphysical materialism is interesting, but, in practice, people who call themselves materialists or physicalists do not behave in a way that is consistent with what they defend. Neither people who defend metaphysical idealism nor spiritualists behave in a manner consistent with what they defend, with rare exceptions. Descartes said: I think, therefore I am. I say: I suffer, therefore I exist. Materialists had an answer to definitively end suffering: death. The total annihilation of the conscious being, although it had the consequence that, for the dead person, it didn't matter whether he lived or not, since mortal remains were not conscious beings, who could remember the life that ended. Neither Rupert nor Bernardo leave an answer to the problem of human suffering. Bernardo goes so far as to say that we are monkeys. What difference does this make to what those who defend metaphysical materialism claim? On the other hand he says that we are a dissociation from the mind of God. If we suffer, does God suffer with us? If he suffers, what hope do we have of stopping suffering? If we are just a wave in the ocean, which dissolves with death, what is the point of knowing that we are part of the ocean? They're just words. If I am the ocean then I am a solipsist. Either I am a part of God and the dissolution of the dissociation that death brings allows me to maintain a kind of individuality, or else I am like a sand castle, which falls apart when the ocean covers the sand. Do I suffer and not exist individually? What does it mean to be someone who suffers? Is it God who suffers through me?
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A lovely and deep conversation.... Definitely the Sun is conscious, and came to me (with a strongly atheistic background) because its contact with us before has so often led to religions, in Egypt, Southern and Central Americas, countless indiginous peoples, Hinduism etc. The Sun acts in our lives and blesses us. Just move from shadow out into the Sun. In the UK, here, it always feels wonderful. In warmer climes, the power is overwhelming. What is more beautiful than the dawn, and our depictions of it (Ravel, Strauss, Turner, photographs in anyone's facebook feed etc). Much sunny love to all.
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21:45 "We live in a culture today where people mistake nuanced layers of meaning for vagueness and imprecision."
Amen. Glory. Could not have said it better.
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@luisortega4991
4 months ago
The care with which Bernardo talks to and about Rupert is very moving.
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