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Some of the bands we look at include Fugazi, Black Flag, PageNinetyNine, Rites Of Spring, and many other important punk bands.
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The way I explain it is that hardcore is a vase. Post Hardcore takes is apart carefully and reconstructs it, while screamo throws it down a starecase in search of catharsis.
Many screamo bands very much feel like they are breaking hardcore apart trying to express things too big for the genre to handle, while Post Hardcore still feels fundamentally hardcore just with added creative freedom
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Emo was a full-blown genre, with adherents, people describing their bands, as such, and with multiple sub-genres throughout the entire 90s
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Post Hardcore was also associated with Noise rock bands like Big Black, Rapeman, Shellac, The Jesus Lizard, Unwound, Jawbox, Unsane to Alternative Metal bands Like Helmet, Orange 9mm, Into Another, Far, Hum, Failure and Quicksand.
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Post hardcore is one of the most diverse genres imo.
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One of the most important things to note is that Minor Threat, Embrace, and Rites of Spring all linked Guy Picciotto and Ian MacKaye and the two of them subsequently started Fugazi (which you covered) but Fugazi's influence on emo cannot be understated. Rites was the first emo band but without Fugazi you don't get Cap'n Jazz and without Cap'n Jazz you don't get Midwest emo in general. Mike from American Football was the drummer in Cap'n Jazz which is also something to note. Cool video.
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I’ve tried to explain this so many times lol.
I just use the term “skramz “ even if it was a joke word at first. Now it’s just easier than trying to explain the difference between PG99 and Hawthorne heights lol.
It’s amazing how Ian and Guy from fugazi totally shaped hardcore and then emo and then again post hardcore. Like they been involved in so much of the transitions.
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From what I understand, back in the late 90's and early 2000's, a lot of bands in the underground 'screamo' scene considered themselves hardcore or punk. I think it's only today that the term 'screamo' and its derivative, 'skramz' are being taken more to heart. Of course, screamo has a lot in common with hardcore, but we can see how post-hardcore bands like Grey Matter and Embrace and Moss Icon paved the path for bands like Indian Summer, pg. 99, Saetia, as we drifted toward the new millennium. But while screamo is decidedly more hardcore in nature and ethic, post-hardcore was allowed to move past the trappings that hardcore had. That's why Fugazi sounds nothing like Thursday and At the Drive-In, and so on and so forth. Post-hardcore is a lot more nebulous in my opinion, and thus can delve into a variety of different paths with more ease. This is just my opinion, but I think it does hold a lot of weight. Regardless, this was a very informative video! I'm going to subscribe so please keep them coming! I dig the Devil Wears Prada shirt btw. It would be cool to see a video on metalcore in the 2000's or how the perception of it has changed idk. Anyway, cool video! I feel like this was one of the best attempts I've seen of someone clearly and casually diving into these topics and parsing them out.
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I like genres because it helps me find more bands that sound similar in the same style of music. I also think it helps when talking about bands with people. But at the end of the day all that really matters is if you like the music and you connect with it. Nowadays the lines are so blurry between so many genres because so many bands these days like to pull influences from multiple styles of music!
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I really do believe that the contemporary communities surrounding the labels "emo/screamo (skramz)" use the labels more in a cultural/community-identifying umbrella-term way, rather than actually categorising music. Especially in what some people have coined the "fifth-wave of emo" it's more just a collection of very, like extremely different sounding musicians like Home is Where, Ogbert the Nerd, Weatherday, Oolong, etc., that all get grouped under the same niche subculture that started to form over the past 2~ish decades.
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As far as I know true Screamo is also often called "Emoviolence", with bands bands like Saetia and Daïtro. On a more modern note, screamo is the most emo music you can find nowadays, with bands like Suis La Lune and Old Gray (please listen to these two if you haven't, I beg you). Post-Hardcore would be something like Alesana, Saosin, Thursday... their sound is often very melodic with clean vocals mixed with gutural.
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It's fascinating hearing different views on the genre. My definition is basically post hardcore in the 2000s was bands with metal influence, from autum to ashes, and bands with a punk or old fashion 90s emo influence are "screamo", Thursday, but the more bands started to experiment the harder it becomes to even use that simple guideline lol, so thank you for sharing your view thar brings me right back to my delema of "idk anymore "
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This is what I call quality content. Great video. Thank you so much.
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Really enjoyed the video. I appreciated how in depth you got and also your sense of humor, keep it up man you're gonna get big on here real quick!
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This was honestly one of the most philosophical approaches to this topic I've seen. And I loved every second of it.
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Great video! Super informative. Subbed.
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Sunny Day Real-estate popularized Emo in the early 90s. While grunge was also growing in popularity. Many os us where there.
Love that you are doing research and sharing what you learned. Keep it up 👍🏽. Don’t be afraid to go back and update your content as you find new info.
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It matters if you care about the culture. Punk and hardcore are not necessarily defined by the sound, but more so by the intention, attitude, and culture of the people who create the music.
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Man i was so ready to complain about the lack of a pageninetynine mention lol you got me. Great video
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You earned a subscriber with this video.
I like what you're doing.
Keep it up. Keep up the consistency and keep improving quality.
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@jonzscurr3002
2 years ago
now tell them about emoviolence
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