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Composer Chat: Can You Make a Living as a Composer?
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It's a question many musicians want to know. Can they make a living writing music? Whether that's scoring films, writing music for video games, composing for TV the question is much the same. Guy Michelmore has been doing just that for over thirty years so here is his take on this question. IN the vidoe Guy analyses the state of the market, where the opportunities are and where they are not.

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Top Comments of this video!! :3

@thepursuitofmusic13

10 months ago

Thank you for this Guy. As someone who is working towards doing this, this is very encouraging

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@malcolmjacobson6226

10 months ago

"Can you imagine an industry, where 90% of the time you lose money." ... Yes, the Music industry. Though I'd say it's more like 95% of the time.

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@steph1918

10 months ago

'Only 1% of you lot is going to make it' is definitely not the most encouraging message, but brutally honest and true.

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@SteveSensenig

10 months ago

Yes, please keep content like this coming! I enjoy almost anything you put out there, but please do more of this!

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@jasonp9508

10 months ago

I’m a mechanical engineer. I found this very interesting and genuine. In a parallel universe, I chose music as a career instead of a hobby. I’ll always wonder what if. Good luck to those of you who follow your dreams instead of the safe choice. For me, I’ve always said, “I’m a good enough musician to know I’m not a good enough musician.” I’ve also said half-jokingly, “I’d be a professional musician if there were such a thing.” (Yes that has two meanings, and Guy speaks to both in this video.) Thanks Guy you’re a joy and inspiration to watch!

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@zmortis111

10 months ago

Not a composer myself, but the advice you just gave fits so well with so many different professional endeavors. 1) Know how to do the job. 2) Know how to follow instructions. 3) Bring something more to the job that is desirable than everyone else.

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@paulembleton1733

10 months ago

I’m creating music and sounds for a game. The developer is very aware of my shortcomings as a composer but won’t consider anyone else. It helps enormously that the developer is me.

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@TRoducts

10 months ago

These composer chats are really great! Please keep doing this!

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@darkjoedickie

10 months ago

Very insightful! As an aspiring game composer I would ask that you cover more on topics like this. I'd also like it if you would make a video that more clearly defines what level the industry expects composers to be at. Basically I'm looking for a roadmap of skills I need to have an adequate handle of. I should probably just email the school like you said. lol

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@GuyVignati

10 months ago

Interesting analysis indeed. I think that the statistics you showed address the main problem: everyone today has the tools (it has never been cheaper in the history to make music..), but very few have the knowledge and the craft. Besides I think also many focus too much on the technical side (quality of production, mix etc): that is obviously important, but more important than that it’s the music itself. I mean people should be humble enough to STUDY the music, especially the composers of the past; that’s the only way to achieve good writing and then concentrate on finding your personal voice.

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@DavidGaliel

10 months ago

These short, sharp, professionally-targeted chats are a welcome complement to your regular content. I hope you continue to offer them.

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@soulcharlie

9 months ago

I’m a lifelong composer and multi instrumentalist. Thanks for encouragement. I’ve just started my channel😊

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@nazarhadidian4928

1 week ago

Do what you love to do and work on improving your skills (musical, technical, communication) and most importantly cooperate, listen and be a hard and fast worker and never give up!

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@matt_phistopheles

10 months ago

I think one important question you have to ask yourself is if you should make money as a composer in the first place. Any art form is really fun as long as you are doing it for your own pleasure. But as soon as the hobby is turned into a job this joy may be over. At this point you have to please the expectation of your client instead of your own and you have to be creative even if you are not feeling it at this moment. It's also a hard job and there will be most likely no time and creativity left for personal side projects. If you start this career then you'll have to go all in. On the other hand it's a very creative and rewarding job. Live your dream but be prepared to have a plan B. I'm personally glad that I didn't go that route even when I had the opportunity back in the day. Decades later I have a different day job that I love and I still love doing music as a hobby (apart of some favor work from time to time). In hindsight I'm pretty sure that a career in the music industry would have ruined music for me but I have some friends who still love it after all these years.

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@VincentLaplante

10 months ago

I, on the other hand, fall in the category where I never believe my work is never good enough, even though I do get some clients for it!😅

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@nickmack8097

10 months ago

You never fail to cheer up and motivate a dull day (and always impress to not have a single edit point in your videos!). Really encouraging and loving your TS masters programme so far! 😊

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@52Cues

10 months ago

Absolutely love this! Thank you so much for you continual sobering optimism, Guy!

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@ZachHeyde

10 months ago

This is a GREAT video Guy, appreciate the candid truths you're dropping on this one 🙌

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@MrBond-xs3cr

10 months ago

This is great! I'm currently in college for composition and I'm hoping to do video game composition as a passion. I'm very happy to hear that it's growing so much! I also really appreciate how you line up what really makes a composer qualified when it comes to finding a job. I'm still new to this all, but one of the biggest problems I've had is trying to find out what exactly I need to work on/aim to do. This helped a lot!

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@jvcouk

10 months ago

Nice work, Guy. There are so many folk on YouTube etc, setting beginner's expectations high for what success looks like, whereas the reality is hard. Thanks for explaining this. There's a parallel with writing (fiction) where widespread computer availability lowered the skill threshold for writing. It enabled more folk to enjoy creative writing, with many of them having dreams of becoming a successful author and generating a steady comfortable income. In truth [I think] about 10% of writers finish a substantial work, 10% of those approach an agent, a small fraction of those reach publication, and a small fraction of those enjoy success with their book. I'm a hobbyist in sound design/composition, and in writing, but I don't have a realistic hope of going all-in to bid for work in such a competitive environment. I really enjoy it, and don't want to put anyone off with what I've said here; I've really restated the problem you set out in this video, and I'm all for equipping folk with realistic expectations and the tools to pursue their dreams.

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