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Mark Zuckerberg: First Interview in the Metaverse | Lex Fridman Podcast #398
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Mark Zuckerberg is CEO of Meta.

Thank you for listening ā¤ Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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TRANSCRIPT:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
0:52 - Metaverse
15:27 - Quest 3
30:16 - Nature of reality
34:54 - AI in the Metaverse
51:51 - Large language models
57:49 - Future of humanity

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@lexfridman

7 months ago

Thank you for listening ā¤ Here are the timestamps: Transcript: lexfridman.com/mark-zuckerberg-3-transcript 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: 0:52 - Metaverse 15:27 - Quest 3 30:16 - Nature of reality 34:54 - AI in the Metaverse 51:51 - Large language models 57:49 - Future of humanity Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast: - LMNT: drinklmnt.com/lex to get free sample pack - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - Eight Sleep: www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - AG1: drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour

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@derek_jesio

7 months ago

The most unrealistic thing about this VR projection is that Lex isnā€™t wearing a suit and tie

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@NefariousEpoch

7 months ago

Mark and Lex have finally revealed their true form.

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@alejandrohernandez7340

5 months ago

Nice to see that Lex and Mark are thriving in their natural environment

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@beejme9time

3 months ago

Timestamps: 1:05 Lex is astounded, thinks this is so great 1:31 Lex thinks this is incredible 1:52 Lex thinks this is the most incredible thing he's ever seen 2:08 Lex thinks this is just really incredible 2:19 Lex thinks this is truly truly incredible 2:34 Lex thinks this is really really incredible 8:16 Lex is just almost at a loss for words this is just so incredible this is truly incredible he hopes that people like watching this can get a glimpse of like how incredible it is 11:42 Lex thinks this is an incredible transition to something else 13:55 Lex's mind is blown he's literally at a loss for words cuz its very difficult to convey how incredible this is 14:13 Lex thinks this is awesome 29:54 Lex thinks this is totally a game changer he can see himself sticking with this for a long time 30:15 Lex is already forgetting that Mark is not real, like this really.. its novel 44:45 Lex is getting his mind blown and is just really excited 57:51 Lex and Mark are talking about AI but Lex is still blown away 1:03:26 For Lex this is really really exciting. He's really excited for this future 1:03:51 Lex is getting his mind blown and can't quite express/ would love to measure his heart rate 1:04:11 This really blew Lex's mind and its one of the most incredible experiences of his life 1:04:24 Lex thinks this is so, so amazing. This is so amazing

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@joegibbskins

7 months ago

Lex leaning into Mark and going ā€œand itā€™s not awkward to be close to youā€ and Mark going ā€œno, it does. I moved you backā€. Was a very funny opening

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@setshkrkrlenv

7 months ago

Good to see lex in his native environment

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@WesTheWizard

5 months ago

I wish they would release a version of this as a VR video. I would definitely throw on my Quest to watch it that way.

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@jimmyeatshoe

5 months ago

Itā€™s like watching two hostages tied up in a dark basement having a chat.

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@DatThiccGinger

7 months ago

Meta should host these types of interviews with 3d recordings so you could sit next to them and listen to the conversation in VR. That would be surreal.

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@ZombiesSpreadAids

7 months ago

This is insane. Mark looks more real than he does in real life.

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@flamingpaxtsc

6 months ago

Itā€™s incredible that this is ACTUALLY a thing that is REALLY HAPPENING. It seems like just yesterday that my mind was blown at the fact that a virtual headset could even exist, but THIS?! This is something else.

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@smeagols_smelliest_smuggler

5 months ago

Just got the Quest 3: ā€¢ Hand tracking is incredible. After a while though, I go back to the controllers because there's a slight latency between my physical hand and the virtual hand - a little annoying. ā€¢ Passthrough nothing too spectacular on its own, but boy is it cool to see virtual objects overlayed on top of your living room (referring to the First Encounters demo here). ā€¢ Resolution is pretty freakin good. Sure, Meta apps are gonna look better than 3rd-party ones, but they'll soon catch up over the next couple of years. I'm stoked for the day Meta can implement eye-tracking onto an MR headset. At that point, being able to click on things just by looking at them and then tapping your fingers AND being able to see your surrounding physical environment just... blows my mind.

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@brandonsmith8235

7 months ago

Imagine a podcast where you, the listener, are the third seat at the table and you can convincingly be in the same room as the two people talking.

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@dansfishing

7 months ago

Lex's smile at the beginning says it all. He's made it back home. šŸ˜„

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@stenbiller99

6 months ago

ā€œSitting in a dark room which is familiar for your podcast ā€œ lol

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@ericmax978

6 months ago

Managing money is different from accumulating wealth, and the lack of investment education in schools may explain why people struggle to maintain their financial gains. The examples you provided are relevant, and I personally benefited from the market crisis, as I embrace challenging times while others tend to avoid them. Well, at least my advisor does too, jokingly

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@casaamaril

7 months ago

Zuckerberg couldn't have wished for a better advertising campaign than the Lex Fridman podcast, this is next level

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@adriansullivan4433

7 months ago

Lex and Mark are the perfect AIā€™s to test this new technology with

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@MattHunX

3 months ago

Right from the beginning this discussion reminded of Ghost in the Shell. Which I recently had the pleasure of watching/binging for the first time. And it was incredible. Thought-provoking and just ahead of its time. In it, even television news anchors had virtual avatars representing them on-screen. Meetings between business men and politicians happened as one was sitting in a limo, suited up, while the other sat at some, in their underwear, but their avatar displayed to the other participant(s) of the conversation was of them fully dressed, showing up either on a separate screen that was physically in their immediate environment or it was displayed, as far as I recall, in their retinas, through a cybernetic implant, that practically projected an image across their personal field of vision, as if it was an overlay of augmented reality, which only they could see. ... 32:15 On the question of what identity, the protagonist of Ghost in Shell has been using a full cyborg body since before puberty, because of an accident. She never even menstruated. And that part definitely made me think, as it also resonated with today's culture war about gender-identity and what even makes someone either what they biologically are or what they see themselves as. What is a woman? If having a vagina and menstruating doesn't make one a woman, as some proponents of trans-rights claim, then why are some people convinced that putting on a dress, make-up and a wig can make them one? The fully cyberized people in the world of Ghost in the Shell are, as the series' name suggests, digitized individuals/souls/ghosts housed in ultimately meaningless artificial shells that could be custom-made, with any physique, genitalia, if the latter even mattered to some. Now, obviously, the main character Motoko Kusanagi is a woman, considers herself as such, is referred to as such. There's never actually a discussion about how her brain was already digitized and uploaded into a fully cybernetic body since childhood, because of an accident, and how that affected her maturing mind. The series didn't need to delve into that, but it can definitely provoke some serious reflections on certain things. In that universe, because of the level of technology and what it allows, the difference between what could be considered a man or a woman, by whatever convention, truly matters very little; or more accurately, people are able to identify however they view themselves to be, as technology allows them to match their custom-made physical bodies and all of its function to it, tailored to their detailed preferences. Similarly to the series Altered Carbon, which I also often bring up as an example to illustrate how it is presently impossible for people to be so cavalier about what they identify as and demand society to conform to their whims, as we are very much still limited by both biology and technology. That doesn't stop some from mentally already living in such a (presently fictional) utopia where merely being in a certain state mentally can be completely translated into being in it physically. No one can yet claim that they are 100% what they identify as, man or woman, both or neither, because they cannot physically/biologically completely be so, no matter how they see themselves and identify as, no matter how liberated it makes them feel, no matter the dysphoria that causes it, no matter the language and terms used. Their physical reality cannot yet be made to completely match the one in their head. If we had technology that allowed people to transfer their selves into a body of their preference, and lived in that body, either since before puberty or even starting after, they could say they're a 100% what they believe they are, because they could be, with all the biological functions, and other physical, physiological characteristic that came with it. However, were not there yet. Acknowledging that shouldn't be transphobic. It shouldn't constitute an attack, an invalidation. It is an uncomfortable, but honest reality-check. ... And about AIs in chat-rooms and video-games. It is already making waves in Skyrim, through a downloadable companion that functions through ChatGPT. And the conversation in can cobble together from all the information/lore of the game is SCARY IMPRESSIVE. At this point, pretty much the only thing they need to work on is the still rather robotic tone of its voice. If they can somehow program it to sound more natural, they're done. In games AI could definitely offer a completely and constantly fresh experience that could revolutionize replayability for just about any genre of video-game where they could work it in. In chat-rooms, and social platforms, I can definitely see how it could, perhaps, help people with social phobias and even disabilities it could stem from by offering them virtual connections they could use, akin to exposure therapy, to strip away their anxiety. It could also help people study, prep for tests by having it pose questions to them quizzing them, acting as a tutor. The only real criticism I can level at it is that in a virtual room full of people, an AI would still be just that. No matter eerily human-like it could get, it would still be fake. Granted, nobody is a real person on the internet, in the sense that everyone can and does hide part of themselves behind an avatar and username. Many actually act braver and with less consideration than they would in person, which doesn't translate well into the real-world, where, if they eventually find themselves in they'll be ill-prepared to interact with other people in person. That's already happening! So, it'll have its drawbacks. Maybe it'll draw people already addicted to cyberspace, with a virtual (re)presentation of themselves, further into it. Another series that utilizes this concept is a show called Gen:LOCK. Now, the first seasons is amazing, and it actually has a gender-fluid character whose reveal and presentation it handles very cleverly, with the technology of its world. Of course that's just a footnote. The plot itself and characterization is interesting.

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