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Hey everybody! Thanks for watching this video on, "Ye, Rick Rubin & Exploiting the Artist's Struggle". I've been in a big creative slump (and in general lol) recently and this is something that I just wanted to get off my chest. Jeen-Yuhs has put so much inspiration in me, but it's also been rather confusing. It made me think of this moment in the Avett Brothers' doc, "May It Last", that's been in my brain for years now. Trying to find the right line between artistic integrity and commercial success is...something else. Leaves my head spinning. And then combine the fact that your art is INCREDIBLY personal to you???? Forget it. Anyway! Hope you liked this weird lil video.
Kanye West / Rick Rubin / Ye / Donda / Jeen Yuhs / JeenYuhs / Genius / Documentary / Avett Brothers / May It Last / Meaning / Explained / Art / Creative
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Date of upload: Mar 19, 2022 ^^
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Rick Rubin talks about this particular moment in an interview w/ Lex Fridman. He articulates his intent to keep the artists in a state of flow and not romanticize the moment in the moment. The second you cherish the moment in retrospect youāre no longer in the moment.
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As an artist, knowing that I can take something painful and create something positive from it is like therapy. To be able to share that moment with another human and they feel comfort for it is cathartic, and getting paid to do it in our culture is the highest praise. Yes it's exploitation, however, in a culture of talent sacrifice at least the goat's getting paid this time and gets to hold their own knife.
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These are some great questions. I donāt know if āexploit your struggleā is the necessary language. I think it creates too many false binaries. Emotions connect. Thatās a huge part of music. Great art isnāt just from struggle. It can be from Joy, love and triumph (a lot Yeās biggest songs have this feel) as well as pain and struggle. At the end of the day, if we consider the listener (or consumer) than channeling real emotions into music thatās palatable is where art and commerce meets. Or one can be like frank ocean and just get comfortable with making less money.
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It kind of reminds me of of Weezerās career over the years: they started out writing deeply personal music that got critically acclaimed, but as they became more lighthearted, fans started to turn on them. After watching this video, I want to ask; is it right to demand that artists expose their vulnerabilities for the sake of their music?
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This reminds me of Stephen Pressfield's the War of Art. He writes about when he finished his first book it was like he slayed dragon he had been chasing his whole life. He had accomplished something worthwhile for the first time in his life. He went over to the house of a good friend (another writer who wrote tons of books and movies) to tell him the good news. His friend (who had been a professional writer for years) simply said "Good. Start the next one tomorrow". I think it's closer to any other job than people usually think. You put in the work and get all emotional but at the end of the day it's still a job and still have people to support and bills to pay. It's not really selling out because of "the money" but it's a way of not over identifying yourself with your job. The War of Art is a book I recommend anyone chasing their dreams reads
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"What's next in our fabulous lives?" Is one of my favorite questions. I ask this often because an old friend used to say it. And she said it because a friend of hers said it. Keep life going; keep looking ahead. Enjoy.
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This doesnāt answer the question completely, but being able to make something beautiful out of something very tragic, is one of the greatest things there is. Suffering is almost a necessity for great art, emotionality is why we relate to it and see itās beauty in a piece of art. So, instead of experiencing something bad and have that be it, you have the choice to make something emotional and beautiful out of it, I think thatās a great thing.
I understand your point on where it becomes hard to judge with the balance between artistry and making money, that canāt be easy with there being quite a big grey area.
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Amazing video. Iām speechless. You gave so much word to the creativeās human experience. Itās definitely much different than the average personās. Yes we all suffer but we all suffer differently. Not one is better than the other of course, but most artists showcase their pain through their craft. š¤āØ
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Just wanted to say this video was incredibly well paced and segmented and in turn - very provoking. Literally had goosebumps in the end. I think it's great you're opening this sort of conversation and topic up for us on YouTube. I've been thinking a lot about exploitation of feelings lately and this helped me figure some stuff out. Awesome channel, hope you're inspired for more videos like this one š¤
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This was a great video and inquiry. I hope you keep sharing from the heart, sometimes is good to forget how things were done before. Thank you šš¼
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Thanks a lot for putting us on about the documentary Iāve been a huge fan of the Avett Brothers for a while now so I canāt wait to go watch it!
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Fantastic video. This gave me a lot to think about, especially as an artist.
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Iām not sure what I just watched but that was some deep philosophical stuff. I think what it tells us is that life is both complex and simpleā¦ full of happiness and heartbreakā¦ and itās the artist who chooses to reveal what they reveal. If the Avett Brothers wanted to just be a band of musicians who only focus on the positive and happy side of life then they wouldnāt be who they are and how they are seen by their fans. Entire genres were basically created through the pain and suffering of the artists who created it. An artist or artists can use their talents just to make money by giving the masses what is hot at that time. They could just go through the motions and write empty songs that are just so generalized and can connect with everyone who wants music that doesnt go to deep or isnt stirring to the soul. And that is fine. Because there is always room on the table of creativity. But artists who choose to bare their souls want to connect on deeper levels. Pain is everywhere. We all are still living through a terrible pandemic with all the death, loss of being able to go and come as we please, the financial issues, etcā¦ Some artists will explore the last 2 years a bit deeper and some will just want to dance and party. And both can exist and do. Thanks for posting this video. āš½
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Never watched your content before and got this recommended. This was an amazing conversation starter. Thank you.
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Great conversation to have and a real thinker of a concept. Appreciate you bringing this topic to light
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I love your perspective as a content creator and your relationship with your work
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"How do you correctly exploit your struggles as an artist?"
So long as there's a commercial barrier to reach as large of an audience as possible, I think it comes down to what you're willing to live with.
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This was a really good and interesting video, thank youš
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Actually really enjoyed this style of video, wouldnāt mind seeing more like this in the future!
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Kanye describing his thoughts while laying in the hospital bed is a perfect example of his artistic motivation. Through the Wire was not made because Kanye went through suffering it was made in spite of it; hence THROUGH the wire. He was thinking, instead of laying miserably and accepting defeat, how he can rise above what other people would call a tragedy and turn it into something positive and inspiring to the people who otherwise would have given up in such a position. Yes that is āprofitingā off of pain but rightfully so; itās rich and full of life. Itās not exploitation if the artist works through their pain genuinely instead of pushing it purely for the sake of money over art and health. What makes Ye such a great artist is thst heās open about doing it for himself and recently for God or a greater purpose in spite of how everyone around wants to take control of his ability to do so.
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