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Umberto Ecoâs Ur-Fascism: www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/
NOTES
1. Gibson, Ian. The Shameful Life of Salvador Dali. Faber and Faber Limited, 1997, p. 320-322.
2. Ibid., 323.
3. Ibid., 324.
4. Ibid., 324-325.
5. Ibid., 325.
6. Lauryssens, Stan. Dali & I: The Surreal Story. Thomas Dunne Books, 2008.
7. www.sothebys.com/en/articles/21-facts-about-salvadâŠ.
8. Gibson, Ian. The Shameful Life of Salvador Dali. Faber and Faber Limited, 1997, p. 376-377.
9. Ibid., 470.
10. Ibid., 367.
11. Orwell, George. Benefit of Clergy: Some Notes on Salvador Dali. (www.orwell.ru/library/reviews/dali/english/e_dali)
12. Gibson, Ian. The Shameful Life of Salvador Dali. Faber and Faber Limited, 1997, p. 362.
13. Salvador Dali in L'Express, June 12, 1975.
14. Gibson, Ian. The Shameful Life of Salvador Dali. Faber and Faber Limited, 1997, p. 395.
15. Ibid., 401.
16. Ibid., 387.
17. Ibid., 494-495.
18. Ibid., 448.
19. Ibid., 498.
20. Ibid., 560-561.
0:00 Introduction
3:35 Daliâs Trial
9:28 Dali and the Spanish Civil War
16:59 Dali and Franco
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"the artist whose art i love is a terrible person" have always been an interesting discussion
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Dali feels like the same kind of person who, in modern day, enjoys such a position of privilege that they feel like theyâre unique and separate from politics so they have leeway to use incendiary symbols and violent ideologies flippantly for shock value. Basically, because these didnât actively threaten him, he could be edgy and just casually associate with these aesthetics for the sake of being âabsurdâ. But if thereâs one thing the internet has taught us, itâs that doing something ironically very quickly leads to doing it unironically, and given that Dali was already not one of the groups fascism was targeting, it was very easy for him to adopt it genuinely.
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I had always wondered how Walt Disney and DalĂŹ could have collaborated as much as they did, after knowing each other for a very short time. This kinda makes sense of that...
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As a man that took part in a movement that prones so much freedom that it encouraged unconscious creation, DalĂ saying he hates freedom is hilarious. He was obviously lost in the sauce, if not outright so self-absorbed that freedom was only for him but not for others
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I love how I was 50/50 about it first, and then Dali went, "Yeah, I like, literally hate freedom." My man, that wasn't subtle.
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Having just a surface level knowledge of Dali and just coming came back from the Dali museum in Florida, this video was extremely enlightening. From the museum I could gather that he was a troubled individual, but having this real historical and political context that the museum lacks is extremely important.
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The part between Lorca and DalĂ is especially sad once you realize that they used to be very close and some people even considered them lovers at many points
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judging by this video he didn't just have sympathies with fascism, he was a fascist.
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His art is fantastic. Revolutionary and largely imitated to this day.....but in most interviews and articles I have read or seen....he came across like the club kid who tries too hard....seeing his political side has been enlightening indeed....
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This is common knowledge among anyone who's read about Dali and not just appreciated his paintings, but it's good to let people know about it who might not. It's one of the examples that's often brought up in the debate over whether a "bad" person's art should still be loved/taught, etc. The most ironic thing, of course, is that most fascist governments would have burned his paintings as subversive.
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Damn Dali was basically the Kanye West of the 1930s
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The relationship between Bunuel and Dali is interesting they started out together making films that were anti-bourgeoisie, there to shock the establishment and to also criticize the Conservatism of the Catholic Church. After making 2 films together they drifted apart. In 1940 Dali went to New York and whilst there his fame soared. Bunuel went to New York in 1939 got work with MoMA. It was the only job Bunuel could find in the US who had a wife and two children. One day, the hugely successful DalĂ blithely called Buñuel an atheist in an interview and Buñuel was promptly fired from his post. It was from this that Bunuel came never to see or speak to DalĂ again. The way these two artists diverged is interesting Bunuel kept the ideals of being anti-bourgeoisie, questioning the establishment and criticizing the Conservatism of the Catholic Church. A faith Bunuel was brought up in. Whereas Dali came to accept Catholicism, the bourgeoisie and importantly a deep rooted conservatism one that accepted eccentrism and connected with the blurred definitions of fascism. Whereas Bunuel had to leave Spain for the US because of his support of the republic. Having worked in various propaganda capacities in Spain and France that made him a political exile to Franco and the Nationalists. Dali escaped Europe coming to New York to start his journey with narcissism cultivating a fame and fortune that earned him the nickname âAvida Dollars.â In his eight years in the States, DalĂ designed shop windows for Fifth Avenue, collaborated on set design for ballets, worked on two Hollywood films including for Hitchcock. His developing obsession from his time in the US with celebrity, fame, mass media, the paranoiac, narcissism, the cult of the individual and the ego, all make sense when one starts to relate Dali to ideas and sympathies around fascism. Just as Donald Trump can be seen to connect with all these things and can be seen to connect to ideas and sympathies around fascism. It is interesting the way Bunuel and Dali came to be having opposite sympathies to a political coin.
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I have long known how problematic Dali was, especially after reading his autobiography, The Secret Life of Salvador Dali. I subscribe to "even a broken clock is right twice a day". You can enjoy art made by terrible people as long as you recognize that they are, in fact, terrible people and not to be emulated, and teach how terrible they really were. Even better - find out who were the other surrealists and enjoy their work.
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I really wish there were subtitles for the interview.
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Dali is a better artist than Picasso
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yknow i enjoyed the art analysis videos but once you got a guy who lived through francoist spain to say "there are fascists operating within the federal government of the united states" i knew you were dope and had to sub. thank you for the analysis
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Thank you. This presentation was not enjoyable, bu was edifying. You made your case. I am sadder for that knowledge. I was always aware of Dali as a catholic iconographer (strict sense), but loved his application of psychology and perception science to his art. He was a great technician. No artist can participate in a movement to elevate barbarism against the many for the purposes of an elite few and not diminish his humanity. There is a constant tendency of critics to divorce the object from its creator. That is as wrong for paining as it is for dance.
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Great video! Just a side note: The Spanish republicans were not alone during the spanish civil war: they had brigades from many countries known as the international brigades with fighters from France, Italy, Germany, Poland, United States, Ireland, Yugoslavia, United Kingdom, Belgium, Canada, Cuba, and Australia to name just a few
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"Separating the art from the artist" is 100% impossible for multiple reasons, but the thing is, I think that framing is dishonest. Let's face it. We don't really care about whether the art and the artist can be separated. We don't give two craps about that, because it's not really about the author, or even about the art. It's about ourselves.
What we really want to know is if, by enjoying a piece of art made by a bad person, we are doing something immoral ourselves. If we somehow get some sort of blood on our hands because our enjoyment is helping evil to spread, however indirectly it may be.
I don't know what the answer to that maybe (right now I'm more inclined to "no" for multiple reasons that are too long for a YouTube comment format, but I might either change my mind or double down as I grow older, who knows), but I think it would be more productive to frame the debate in that way, rather than the "separation" wishful thinking thing.
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@Liboo52
1 year ago
â[Dali] was purposefully confusing and contradictory.â Great, Dali was an internet troll
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