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That is a tough question to think about for sure. I think that the best way to go about is probably to discourage it whilst knowing that people will still do it but only really remove anything offensive. That way we can still allow for the creation of historical graffiti for future generations but also not take away too much from the natural beauty of the cave.
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It seems graffiti is generally only perceived to have value if it's old. . .or a banksy
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The case for/against graffiti has a lot in common with the case for/against footpaths up the sides of mountains in scenic areas. Some folks will argue it damages the fabric of the cave/landscape or spoils the view. Some will contend that you can't stop people doing it and if you tried, they would simply either ignore you or do it elsewhere.
It also seems that the more people do a thing, the more impact it will inevitably have and the more likely it will be that other people will oppose it based on the impact. This is balanced against an increase in acceptance over time which means that an old graffiti / mountain footpath is more likely to be accepted, even revered, than a new one.
It is likely (but not assured) that people would agree that there is a line to be drawn between acceptance and prohibition, but everyone has their own, subjective, idea of where that line should be drawn. There can be no right/wrong answer, only a level of agreement.
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I honestly feel that simply by virtue of being in a cave, it's significantly less 'graffiti' at all. Not only is it out of sight, but cave scribbles are humanity's oldest extant method of documentation.
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I've been down this mine and didn't realise the graffiti in here was a biker gang.
Theres some well just a name and a date in a mine not far from here it was Dec 5th 1831 and I just happened to be down there on Dec 5th 2021.
A revisit to Wapping is needed now!
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Tunnel Snakes Rule!
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It's 1:37 am in the Eastern time zone of the US. I just got done eating my chicken nuggets, stop making me think so much. lol. Your videos are great.
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This is a fine conundrum. If you don't have permission to mark on it, then it's vandalism/graffiti. However, the longer the graffiti remains, the more historically significant it becomes and wrong it would be to remove it. If graffiti were acceptable, then everyone would do it and our caves would be an absolute mess. We should strongly discourage graffiti in order to keep it under control. We should also remove graffiti we find that isn't yet historically significant. This way, only some graffiti survives. This is an example of "the rules are made to be broken." It would be terrible if the rule didn't exist. It would also be terrible if everyone followed the rule.
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I live near Chicago, and we have some really nice graffiti here. It imparts some color and beauty to what can be an otherwise bleak view at times. I think that if it destroys or covers up or ruins the view of some unique architecture or cultural artefact, then it may rise to the level of vandalism, but if it is a pretty picture on a blank wall that is otherwise of little significance, or on, say, a train car that you are forced to stare at as you are waiting for it to pass, then it isn't vandalism (although the owners of the train cars may disagree). The only thing I don't get is, the artists sometimes write their signature with letters that are so stylized that it becomes illegible. I would think that an artist would want their name to be read so that people would know who did it, but what do I know.
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Well I have an easy time with that since I think all graffiti is a-okay
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Hmm, good question. At what age does "graffiti" become "cave art"?
A bit like "At what point does grave robbing become archaeology?"
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To me, it is.
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Writing on walls that you do not own is graffiti/vandalism. The miners can do it because they 'owned' the mine (or worked for those who did) but for everyone else it's graffiti/vandalism.
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A philosophical question. It’s all graffiti but is it vandalism? I suppose that the longer it’s remained, the longer it seems to be regarded less as vandalism and more as part of social history?
Some churches have medieval graffiti in them but you’d never call that vandalism..
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Perhaps the age of it makes a difference in some cases? If it's Roman or Anglo-Saxon, it is historical. If it's contemporary marks in a WWI or WWII trench system or coastal defences, it is historical. If it is 'Nancy and Ted XoXo 2013' in spray paint covering up other marks, for the time being, it's less so. Perhaps it's also ownership and visibility. If someone decides to alter the Cherhill horse to turn it into a zebra...
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Very well put together Elise 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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I suppose to me it all feels like graffiti, but not bad graffiti if that makes sense?
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Not vandalism. It's neat when humans paint the rocks and stones of the world, period. Don't vandalise others' artwork, but rocks and nature are not so precious we can't ever allow paint get on it.
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