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But his beginnings in south-east England were a world apart from his public image as a celebrated writer and speaker on both sides of the Atlantic.
Born Archibald Stansfeld Belaney on 18 September 1888 in Hastings, he grew up enthralled by stories of Native Americans and moved to Canada aged 17 in search of a new life. In 1906, 17-year-old Belaney arrived at Temagami station, Ontario, fulfilling a dream to live in the Canadian wilderness among native people.
During the next six years, he let his hair grow, learned to speak Ojibway and became an expert in the ways of the forest. By 1912, when he left Temagami for Biscotasing, people accepted him as a native trapper.
In the 1930's Grey Owl was appointed to Riding Mountain and later to Prince Albert National Park to oversee a beaver conservation program. He wrote four books - Men of the Last Frontier (1931), Pilgrims of the Wild (1934), The Adventures of Sajo and her Beaver People (1935), and Tales of an Empty Cabin(1936) and made several films. He subsequently toured Britain and North America, becoming one of Canada's greatest conservationists and one of the foremost Canadian writers of his day.
The background instrumental is a recording of Up Where We Belong, a song written by Jack Nitzsche, Buffy Sainte-Marie and Will Jennings that was recorded by Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes for the 1982 film An Officer and a Gentleman. Nitzsche, Sainte-Marie, and Jennings won both the Academy Award and Golden Globe Award for Best Original Song.
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The problem with taking on an identity or a race that isnât your own is that you did not go through the struggle that those people went through. If you pretend youâre black or gay or indigenous, and you didnât grow up having to deal with how the rest of society treats you or having to deal with all of those issues, then you really donât know what itâs like. You can empathize. But you havenât lived it. You can also stop pretending if things donât go well and return to being a white person if you want to. Whereas people who are born black or gay or indigenous canât just âturn it offâ if it doesnât suit them. Even if a white person can imagine or empathize with the struggle indigenous people have had to go through, they really donât know what itâs like to live it. They canât know it. And thatâs the difference. Buffy may have fought for indigenous issues, but it wasnât HER struggle. In the early 60s, when she was 20, she started folk singing. Then someone likely said âhey - are you Native American?â And she probably said âyesâ and then got bookings. And then word spread that she was Native American and she got more bookings. Then she got an agent who promoted her as Native American. It was easy to keep it up. But had she not succeeded, she could have just gone back to being a white-Italian American woman from Massachusetts. People from reserves in Saskatchewan forcibly removed from their families donât have that luxury.
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When people put someone so high on a pedestal the fall from it is even harder. By now, perpetuating the fraud so long she probably actually believes her own fantasy.
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Fraud is fraud and should never be rewarded.
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Yes I know the story of Grey Owl. In the wintertime we used to snowshoe into the location where his cabin was. He looked like a British man in aboriginal clothes.
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Not sure itâs fair to make comparison between grey owlâs benign impersonation, driven by environmentalism, and Buffy saint Marieâs self-serving, and apparently quite nasty machinationsâŚ.
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I must have missed the part where Grey Owl was a terrible singer who lied about his heritage and threatened his brother to shut him up,
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D.N.A. Test must be done on buffy.. Shes a grifter.
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It's called "identity theft." It's exactly what it is. She financially and emotionally and publicly profited from "identity theft." She took away (stole) awards, honors, etc., from real Indigenous people. That's who she is at the heart of the matter, no matter how much anyone says that she helped Indigenous people.
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Was Grey Owl awarded lots of accolades that should have gone to Natives? Did he take privileges that should have gone to Natives? No. Then it's offensive to compare him with Beverly Santa Maria, the Italian American.
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My brother inlaw is grey owl's wife's nephew, so Grey owl's nephew by marriage, the family knew he was not indigenous.
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Forgiveness does not mean it did not happen, it does not mean it was right or OK. It does mean that if we expect the Creator to forgive us should we not also forgive??? Forgiveness simply means that we choose not to seek revenge. It's a choice.
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Never heard he had written books, sounds like a very interesting person, had seen the movie long ago. Thanks for the video well done
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his books are very sensitive, very touching, I cried a lot of times. I think he was asperger.
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With complete respect for your opinion, sir; I believe that Ms. Saint Marie's motivation was a bit more self-serving.
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My Grandfather was arrested as the small town the family was from had it out for him because he looked very Native American. Our family on his side is Cherokee and European but he was very dark as he worked outside after leaving the military. My Aunts and Uncles were harassed for being mixed. Not sure how to take this lady but I am sure she admired Native people. Maybe she could not come clean without losing everything. But in the end she tried to be something she was not for fame and wealth. I look more Caucasian but have high cheekbones and a broad face very similar to my Mother who also had Cherokee, Creek and European ancestry. A woman told me I was not Native American but I think she was under the impression everyone would be wearing buckskins and living in a teepee. đ
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I saw the film, starring Pierce Brosnan as Grey Owl some years ago. Was reminded of it with this recent Buffygate scandal. Interesting movie. On balance he comes off as sympathetic in the film. Not an expert in his real bio. He may have pioneered faking being Indigenous, but he was also a pioneer of enviromentalism. Created that park.
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THANKS for putting things into perspective.
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As a kid she was forced down our throats. Kind of like she made fools of us all. Sheâs about as native Canadian as I am. Signed shamus O Reagan.
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Not saying that Buffy is/was a pretender, that is for others to determine, however there have been many pretenders in history. here are a few with the Wikipedia reference at the end
The Captain of Kopenick (Wilhelm Voigt - 1849-1922) , Princess Garaboo (Mary Willcocks - 1792-1864), T Lobsang Rampa ( Cyril Hoskin 1910 -1981), Dr. Joseph Cyr (Ferdinand Demara 1921-1982), Cassie Chadwick ( Elizabeth Bogley 1857-1907), Cazique (Gregor MacGregor 1786 â 1845), George Psalmanazar, !794 Wrote Historical Fiction about Formosa as fact, Grey Owl (Archie Belaney 1888-1938), Prince Lieven of Latvia (Harry Domela 1905-?), The Grand Duchess of Anastasia (Anna Anderson 1896 -1984), James Barry (Margaret Ann Bulkley 1795-1865), Bob Corigan (Hannah Snell 1723-92), Count Erich Oswald Hans Carl Maria von Stroheim und Nordenwall (Eric Von Stroheim 1885-1957), Frank Abagnale (1948 -), Arthur Orton (Thomas Castro 1850âs), Queen Elizabeth I (The Bisley Boy).
www.historyextra.com/period/modern/imposters-histoâŚ
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@DavePocklington
6 months ago
The woman was a lying fraud, who threatened her brother by saying she would accuse him of being a child molester, if he carried on telling people the truth about her real origins. She did it for money and fame, before any real consideration of native Americans. For what she did to her brother she deserves nothing but contempt.
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