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We'll also be talking about the concept of mukbang true crime channels, makeup true crime videos and ASMR true crime videos.
Few sources:
Tiger king: The Problem with True Crime
Ā Ā Ā ā¢Ā TigerĀ King:Ā TheĀ ProblemĀ withĀ TrueĀ CrimeĀ Ā
I play a clip from that one.
- The Human Cost of Binge-Watching True Crime Series:
time.com/5825475/true-crime-victim-families/
This is where the Mindy Pendleton interview is from.
- Shanann Watts' Relatives Plead For Online Harassers To Stop Spreading Lies
www.oxygen.com/crime-time/shanann-watts-family-askā¦
This one is mainly a report stating what Shannan's father said
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Date of upload: Dec 17, 2021 ^^
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Iāve seen people have more respect talking about fnaf lore than YouTubers retelling homicidal tragedies
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My family friend was murdered in 2022. It was a closed case with plenty of evidence, but made it to Tik tok where I saw THOUSANDS of conspiracy theory comments claiming they have a "bad feeling" about it, they thought her husband "must have had something to do with it", she had a "secret double life" and many other horrible random claims from complete strangers. I wasn't even that close to her, but I was so repulsed by the comments I had to stay off of the internet for a while. It is 100% entertainment for these people, and the creators fuel it more. I am tired.
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Paraphrasing here, but when you said, "The family doesn't want people eating popcorn and being entertained by their loved one's murder" made me cry because that's EXACTLY why I don't like the True Crime genre in any capacity.
I thought it was just me who found YouTubers doing their damn makeup while discussing someone losing their life tasteless, but even on a larger scale, like TV shows and movies, idk...it makes me very uncomfortable to watch someone's tragic end become a production to entertain you, not educate you.
ESPECIALLY without the consent of the family. F*CK Netflix forever for that.
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Stephanie Soo has seemed to have changed her approach to be more respectful, so maybe calling out folks does help on occasion.
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I remember a case Kendall didnāt cover that everyone was asking her to. She specifically said it was because she reached out to the family and they told her theyād rather her not. Itās not hard to be a respectful person.
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True Crime youtuber : "...and this was then that the policemen found her lifeless body after weeks of starvation.
However, she would have never starved if she had usED TODAYS SPONSOR : HELLO FRESH !"
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Wow. Just wow. I actually really enjoyed Stephanieās and baileys videos if Iām being honest, but this video made me realize how desensitized I was to those ādocumentariesā specially mukbangs, it is incredible disrespectful and very eerie, it makes me realize how much people mindlessly consume content. Thank you for this video, Iām glad I realized I was contributing to this sort of behavior by watching them, I will be unfollowing.
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After personally experiencing the heart wrenching horror of having a loved one being murdered 2 years ago I have not been able to look at true crime the same way ever since. All of these āstoriesā about these victims were real people with real families and friends that loved them and grieved and screamed and sobbed and had to heal for months and years. True crime being used as entertainment is absolutely sickening and it makes me upset to think that this was a genre that I used to enjoy, the lack of empathy and the desensitization to the pain of others is truly shocking and needs to be talked about more.
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My friend was murdered when we were 15 (14 years ago) and thought of someone eating or doing their make up while talking about her case makes me feel physically ill.
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The Stephanie Soo clips really horrify me. She's just stuffing her face with McDonalds and laughing about how her friend can't say the victim's name, then renames him because she can't be bothered to look up the pronunciation. The "Mateuszzzz" part infuriates me.
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Speaking of Bailey Sarian, thereās one video she posted that particularly bothered me and still does to this day. It was the video she posted on the case of the Springfield Three. One of the girls that went missing was named Stacy McCall. Bailey literally started singing, āI know this may be wrong but Iām in love with Stacyās momā - yanno stacyās mom by fountains of Wayne. And she sang that TWICE. Iām someone who has watched the majority of baileyās videos and I have to say this particular comment really, really bothered because it was so insensitive. Like Stacy has been missing for over 30 years now and her remains have never been found to this day and her mother has never been given closure as to what happened to her daughter and Bailey had the audacity to make that comment and laugh about it???! What the fuck, not okay at all.
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I used to kid myself that I only watched 'respectful' true crime youtubers, but over the past 3 years or so I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing. We try to justify it by saying we want to stay alert, keep ourselves safe- but that is pure BS. We just want to gawk at the spectacles, we want to cringe at the gory details, get enraptured by a story. Once I realised that, I stopped watching true crime completely. That is not the kind of person I want to be.
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I had a professor who's daughters were tortured and murdered by a serial killer. She had to take a multi-year break from teaching to deal with her trauma. After hearing about how deeply it's ruined her life, it really makes true crime feel extra disgusting and horrible.
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I didnāt even realize how bad this stuff isā¦like I canāt imagine having a loved one brutally murdered or r@ped and someone is talking about it while eating pizza and just non chalantly making jokes
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In Brene Brown's book "I Thought It Was Just Me," she perfectly sums up the problematic psychology behind consuming crime as entertainment. Like so many people say it's "helping" them to learn what to avoid, to "recognize" dangerous people, but all it is really doing is giving a false sense of comfort. "If the victim in this story did x, y, z thing wrong, I know I would never get fooled like that." But the reality is crime is unavoidable. People are born into abusive families. You happen to be in a specific place at just the wrong time. It's too much for people to simply accept that and focus on other sociolegal issues like children not having the proper sex education to arm themselves from being groomed or not being taught about healthy relationship dynamics across the board. We need more anger management, emotional regulation training, and substance abuse help. No amount of changing your running schedule will ever prevent you from experiencing a violent crime. I think people who enjoy true crime are ultimately in it for solace at best and smugness at worst. And thereās a big difference from modern ātrue crimeā as told on social media vs documentary work and special news reports. The news usually helps promote active cases and cold cases within their local communities. The Murdoch family podcast is a great example of a small local journalist helping bring up cold cases and cover the current case and she helped so many more people get justice. Makeup and murder is not the same type of true crime at all.
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I used to watch Bailey religiously when I first started watching true crime. I thought she was funny and she made the story feel like gossip. I was also a freshman in high school with a very poor grasp on what's respectful in true crime. Then I stumbled upon Eleanor Neale's content and she showed me how cases SHOULD be handled. She gives the victims and their families so much respect and everything is so matter of fact while still being interesting. I think Bailey seems to be a decent person, but she has a problem with time and place. She's funny and has a light hearted personality but talking about someone's gruesome murder isn't the best time to show that and make jokes.
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I am a forensic scientist and this is actually detrimental to us. You get jury pools who think that they are āinvestigatorsā so they come to our testimonials thinking they know everything. When what we say doesnāt line up with their expectation of the science (which is a lot more boring and math heavy than most people think) it can cause a subconscious bias. We learned about it in my masterās degree program. We call it the CSI effect
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I watched some of Stephanie Soo's videos on her RottenMango channel and actually really liked them. She was being respectful towards the victims and took time to debunk certain theories. She even did some deep dives into certain topics like ghost brides. I thought it was really good. Then, I switch to her Stephanie Soo channel and see her doing muk bang or whatever those eating-videos are called and I'm like ????
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i used to watch bailey sarian back in 2018 or so when i was in high school, but stopped because of the reasons you brought up. not to mention, consuming so much true crime really started taking a toll on my mental health. itās crazy to me, looking back, as to how immature i was then to not immediately see what was wrong with the picture. just goes to show that even if youāre 17 and you think āoh iām matureāā¦.you still got room to grow.
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@Pinely
2 years ago
I think this is a pretty interesting topic for discussion. So if you finished the video, what do you think? Who are your favourite true crime channels? Do you agree with my takes? I literally got covid by the time it took me to finish this thing so you better be nice. My next video is going to be about the American Pie Cinematic Universe.
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