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The first time I watched There Will Be Blood, I realized that it was Daniel's line at 13:19 that was the first major red flag for his personality. "Nobody can get at it except for ME." He's standing right there next to the guy who had been his loyal assistant for pretty much his whole oil career up to that point, but he doesn't say "us", he says "me." A seemingly minor detail but it reveals his self-centeredness.
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just a few archetypes off the top of my head that may be interesting to tackle:
1) Force of nature/unstoppable force: A villain whose presence is felt by other characters and the audience to be almost omnipresent and nigh on unstoppable. A good example of this is, of course, Sauron. The villain isn't ACTUALLY unstoppable, but it takes something extraordinary to defeat them. In this case, it's the fellowship going through absolutely horrible trials in which the chance of success is unfathomably small. What's important about this type of villain is that they are somewhat removed from everyday human emotions, and are more of an abstract threat. We don't need to know Sauron's inner justifications for his actions, so long as we know that he's the big unstoppable bad guy. It avoids being stereotypical and cliché due to the sheer awe the villain inspires in us.
2) Love to hate them/hate to love them.: A villain that isn't so much sympathetic in terms of motives or goals as they are fun to watch or entertaining to listen to. Campy, overly arrogant, maniacal laughter type villains fall under this category. Best example I can think of is Jafar from the original Aladin. Other examples are Ramsay Bolton and Geoffrey Baratheon from game of thrones. Generally, these villains aren't overly complex, they're just somewhat goofy and self-absorbed. However, a villain like this can still surprise the audience in a rare moment of deep introspection or vulnerability. They usually fall due to their own vanity or vice (though that's not exclusive to this archetype, obviously)
3) The misguided villain: Somebody who is a villain due to some bad choices or bad lessons they received, but believe themselves to be righteous. The big question throughout the story, or perhaps in choice moments, is whether they will keep straying from the path, redeem themselves somehow, or fall ever further into darkness. Obviously you already tackled a part of this archetype in the "mirror villain", but not every mirror villain is misguided (maybe they're just straight up evil or mad) and not every misguided villain is a mirror villain. Often times this archetype isn't the only villain in the story, and they're perhaps being misguided by a bigger, more classic villain, for instance, Saruman being misguided by Sauron, or Riku by Maleficent and Ansem (in the first kingdom hearts videogame.) Thanos might fall under this category, as the audience does not need to agree with him, so long as we understand that the villain believes in his own sense of righteousness and his motives are relatively believable by the audience. The Incredibles' "Syndrome" also falls under this category. (though it's arguable that syndrome falls more under the category that I will mention next.)
4) The " tragically hopeless" villain: This is the villain that was once, perhaps in a lifetime ago, a good person, but essentially ended up as what the "misguided villain" threatens to become. They are the result of giving in to the darkness, and perhaps form a warning to the protagonist (this is similar to the mirror villain.)
A good example of this is Darth Vader, obviously. Whether these characters can be "redeemed" through a single act of heroism in the finale of an epic trilogy in which they are presented as definitely, 100% evil remains up to debate. The Villain is often "saved" by a realization at the bitter end, a small moment of empathy that is foreshadowed earlier in the story but kept for the climactic finale, or some other miniscule thing that shifts their worldview in the end. Obviously, this villain and the misguided villain have a lot in common in terms of themes and audience expectations or hopes. However, it's just as likely that the hopeless villain never redeems themselves and forever remains shrouded in darkness.
5) The magnificent bastard: "Overly sarcastic productions" has an interesting video on this archetype explaining it much better than I could; but essentially, the magnificent bastard is dastardly, evil, arrogant, self-serving and almost never redeemable, but they enjoy their villainy and do their villainy in style and magnificent extravaganza. Obviously there is some correlation with "love to hate them/hate to love them". However, the magnificent bastard has a more profound impact on the characters of the story, rather than the audience. Whereas "love to hate them/hate to love them" villains are mostly just fabulous to the audience, they are still considered vile by the characters. Magnificent bastards may, however, get some semblance of respect from the characters themselves, who recognize that they are a villain, but they're damn good at what they do. Perhaps this villain is an extravagant billionaire who enjoys torturing the poor protagonist with clever traps and overly impractical and ambitious plans and puzzles, and the protagonist and antagonist have some sort of mutual respect for one another, if only for their skill and not their goals. Magneto and Xavier come to mind, or Death Note's Light Yagami and L.
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9:00 It is interesting that a “villainous hero" has become a paradox in modern speech. In the Iliad, where the word first appears, a hero is simply a major combatant in the war, the majority of whom commit villainous deeds. The reader's intelligence is trusted to discern right from wrong by seeing consequences, learning lessons from both the good and the bad. The notion that a hero must be a virtuous model in everything, or almost everything, he does, is a later evolution of the word.
Although even in the Iliad, there is a sense that certain heroes (like Achilles) are fundamentally admirable, while others (like Paris) are fundamentally contemptible. And in all literature since, there is a spectrum of characters ranging from “mostly virtuous, with villainous qualities,” to “mostly villainous, with virtuous qualities”—any one of whom might technically be called a “villainous” hero, despite the great differences among them. Which is an example of how language can mislead us.
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I personally like the villain protagonist, because paradoxically, while they are the least villainous, they hit close to home. So many of us knows a Daniel Plainview, but few of us will ever meet a looming threat. It is in this personal experience that curiosity grows. So much of theatrics is made of the novel and rare, but it's actually the reflection of our lived experience that maintains our interest. It's why star trek was the show that lasted throughout the years. It wasn't the cool tech, the new locales, or even "exotic" actors that made star trek have such an initial grab, it was dealing with taboo, figuring out principles, learning about different ways of thinking, and developing compassion for others that made star trek what it was.
Even as the times changed, effects became stale, styles changed and the culture moved on, there's still many people who watch star trek now, and it holds a certain charm that many new shows lack, simply because they don't have that same depth. They can't, for risk of showing a black mirror to the faces of those who are hegemonic.
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The key underlying component for me is that the villain has to be smart. They need to drive the conflict and they need to surprise us too. There has to be a REAL threat. In so many movies the villain creates a sky beam that is going to kill the world or end humanity. We know the threat is minimal at best. That's why Thanos was so unique. He was like the Dark Knight's Joker in that he literally could kill everyone. Not giving too much backstory also helps too. Then the audience comes up with their own theories and ideas in their minds.
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Chapters: 00:00 Intro — What Makes a Great Villain? 00:54 The Mirror Villain 04:05 The Looming Threat 08:50 The Villain Protagonist 15:46 Iconic Villains
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