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I explain why this time period was so significant to the culture and to a lot of black men, and why so many of us are (foolishly?) holding out hope that Kanye reconnects with the person he was.
Along the way, you'll get a short history lesson on hip hop before and after Kanye as well as a crash course in the world of Professional Wrestling... yeah I'm doing a lot here!
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On god, even as a kid, when Kanye said âGeorge Bush doesnât care about black peopleâ I was ecstatic to know that someone said it out LOUD, especially someone like Kanye
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Hi, mental health professional here.
I remember around the last election when Kanye was behaving very erratically (I think it was Nylah Burton?) mentioning that we culturally only make room for mental illness that expresses itself as mild anxiety and depression. We only wish to destigmatize mental health issues whose expression is understandable/relatable or makes someone into an unquestionable victim worthy of our sympathy. There is neither room nor sympathy for bipolar disorder, delusions, psychosis, narcissism, etc. I think this plays a large role in how many people treat and talk about Kanye. People have a hard time accepting this and it is confounded by race and gender in Kanyeâs case.
I really appreciate the deep dive into this topic and value your insight as always. Thank you!
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Its a shame Andre 3000 was not given his due credit here. Way too often Outkast is overlooked. It was Andre 3000 on Aquemini, Stankonia, and The Love Below that paved the way and inspired a new generation of rappers to be vulnerable, introspective, and to openly defy black male stereotypes. Andre 3000 is the rapper that made space for Kanye, Drake, Kid Cudi, Childish Gambino, and Kendrick to dominate the mainstream in the 2000s and beyond.
Other rappers had sung, had vulnerable/introspective/conscious lyrics, had experimented with other genres, had defied black male stereotypes, but Andre 3000 was the first rapper to do all of those things at once, while also succeeding at a mainstream level. More importantly than reaching a mass audience, he managed to be cool and widely accepted both in hip hop and broader society for who he was despite being so different and eclectic.
Don't get me wrong, Kanye was a huge part of making the blueprint for that entire lane but he didn't start that wave. Andre3k did that. Even musically it can be argued Outkast is Kanye's greatest influence, where do you think he got the inspiration to switch up his sound album to album from? Through The Wire uses Outkast drums for gods sake! Its a perfect metaphor for how essential OutKast was to what Kanye became.
Kanye is one of my favorite artists (I grew up on him) and he deserves his credit for being the first major solo act to build a successful career on that approach and then heavily influencing most of the newer generations greatest rappers/producers. Its just wrong to not mention Outkast or Andre 3000 at all in his story, feels bad man.
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As a person with severe bipolar disorder Kanye is frustrating for me. I want to support him getting well. I know I've said and done shit in episodes, had black outs, delusions, and craziness. I'm fortunate not to do it on a world stage with everyone watching documenting everything I say. But I also know that if you're going to have this problem you have to take your meds, see your shrink, do the work. Learn your triggers or how to spot when you're going off the rails. I don't want him to be perfect but I want him to make an effort. Honestly maybe obscurity will be best for him. He can leave the public eye and get help and be healthier. Continuing to feed his ego and narcissism and propping him up just maintains his illusion/delusion.
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As a black man, being in College when Kanye was at his prime....there was nothing like it. One of those "you had to be there" moments.
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âI guess weâll never knowâ still gives me full-body chills.
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I was born in 2002, so it is really strange to see how different he was. When I think of Kanye, I think of him as he is now. I never really understood the appeal of him, but looking back on his starting career and the context, I can defiantly see it now. Itâs kind of sad to see where he is now.
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As a young gay black man hearing someone like Kanye stick up for people like me in the mid-2000s hit different it really felt like there was hope that people like me could make it not just in a music industry, but the black community, that we could make it without having to be the punchline or a joke, that you could be taken seriously.
I still appreciate that acknowledgement even with all the stuff Kanye is done the last few years,.
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Kanye West is patient zero of the 21st Century.
There have been hyper-celebrities struggling with mental health for a long time, but very few who have been as big as him, and lived under the level of scrutiny in our always-online media landscape. People are going to write books on what Kanye is going through.
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I miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye
Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye
I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye
The always rude Kanye, spaz in the news Kanye
I miss the sweet Kanye, chop up the beats Kanye
I gotta to say at that time I'd like to meet Kanye
See I invented Kanye, it wasn't any Kanyes
And now I look and look around and there's so many Kanyes
I used to love Kanye, I used to love Kanye
I even had the pink polo, I thought I was Kanye
What if Kanye made a song about Kanye
Called "I Miss The Old Kanye, " man that would be so Kanye
That's all it was Kanye, we still love Kanye
And I love you like Kanye loves Kanye
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I have always known Kanye was bipolar, being bipolar myself I could see him struggling with the same struggles I do. It saddens me that instead of learning to cope healthily with his issues, he instead dived head first into the mania and depression and found solace in ego. Bipolar is a disease that requires constant self awareness to keep in check and instead of developing those skills to stay level, he embraced the grandiose delusions that come with bipolar and completely lost his true sense of self. I hate that the people who have provided him the validation and comfort he craves are manipulative far right personalities and so he has thrown his lot in with them.
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Watching this during his whole âwhite lives matterâ debacle and it hurts. Everyday I wear either the graduation bear or the 808s heart on the steel chain on my neck because thatâs how much Kanyeâs music and persona until about 2013 mean to me. But Iâm strongly considering just putting those pieces away because the man whoâs art and whole persona touched me to my core is now everything that he once stood against. Ever since the trump situation itâs been so hard to defend him, as someone who has my own mental health issues I could sympathize with what heâs going through, but at this point itâs beyond just mental health. Yes itâs much of what got him to this point stems from these issues, but he has changed so much and it truly is a toxic relationship I have with this man as a figure in my life
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Man...the psychological toll of kayfabe is real! As a lifelong black nerd, I still remember black AND white kids saying that Paul Wall was "blacker" than me because I didn't portray a 'hood' persona...that shit was infuriating and hurtful.
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40:38 okay as a queer person I had no idea that this had happened. I'm highly critical of modern Kanye for obvious reasons, but I've always respected him immensely as an artist and as a public figure. I actually met him once and he was nothing but kind to me. I had no idea he went to bat for gay people back then. I remember how homophobic that time period was and it's incredible that he spoke up. I often talk about the difference between goodness and greatness. Kanye flirts with both, he's a complicated person. He has both my respect and my condemnation. I think the world is inarguably better for him being in it.
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Im a black woman and thank you for explaining to me why I canât let go of Old Kanye, Itâs kinda sick,I literally damn near ignore most of the dumb stuff he does because âOld Kanyeâ is in there somewhere and I love himđđđ Come back Kanye!!!! I literally have a religious experience when âTwo words â , â Crack Musicâ âBring Me Downâ and âDiamonds from Sierra Leonâ đ¤Śđžââď¸ Intense pain can and will change you sometimes, not always for the better. I didnât understand until I lost my Mom 2 years ago.
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Itâs sad to see how young and brilliant and full of hope and gratitude and joy he used to be. Compared to the egotistical, man weighed down by the things that heâs been through and his inability to heal from trauma. His first record was like fresh ass lemonade on a hot day. Now, his music sounds like a heavy coat on a hot day.
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Kanye is the true definition of someone who needed help, but was ignored for profit. Also I think blackness and our culture's relationship with mental health forever play a role in this predicament. Will never doubt Kanye's abilities to create powerful and influential music. He also (from an outside looking in perspective) seems very lost and troubled and lately I believe it has had an affect on his music, the industry, and the culture for better or worse. Interested to see this video later today and see the future of Kanye.
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I love the Kayfabe analogy. The smokescreen of defending violent music as street reporting always created cognitive dissonance, since descriptions of crimes were recognized to be literary flourishes. But if, like youâve said, rappers were obligated to defend their personaâs lore, or amplify their personality like a wrestler staying in character, that just rings true. Great insight
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You should teach real courses like this, I swear. This was really insightful. I'm just a young white guy from a small town in the midwest, far away from ever hearing about or understanding hiphop or Black culture's influence at all. I had only ever known Kanye as a kind of aloof, disturbed musical genius. I just thought of him as some guy that went off the rails for whatever reason. I never understood how incredibly influential he was to pop culture and Black culture as a whole, so this was really, really interesting. I feel like I'm finally coming to understand just how tragic and devastating his mental and social decline really is.
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@tnk4me4
2 years ago
How did the dude who wrote All falls down and Heard em say end up this not okay?
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