Shan-Lyn Ma, co-founder and co-CEO of Zola, recounts a pivotal moment in the company’s history when the Hallmark Channel refused to air their ads featuring same-sex couples. Despite years of promoting inclusivity, Zola faced a direct challenge to their values. In conversation with Masters of Scale host Jeff Berman, Shan shares how her team stood firm, sending a powerful message about the company’s commitment to representation and equality.

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