Welcoem to posts!!
in the future - u will be able to do some more stuff here,,,!! like pat catgirl- i mean um yeah... for now u can only see others's posts :c
Link to my discord server:
discord.com/invite/e4J6mmznPM
Please be polite and don't start arguments, especially as I'm still figuring out moderation and such
Link is also in pinned comment in case it doesn't work in the post
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Kiss of Life Ranking, Discord & changes to the tier names
I uploaded the Kiss of Life video on Patreon, but as it is more detailed than I planned I will upload it on Youtube in about a month (with possibly some added points if I see any changes during their new comeback).
I want to make a Discord server - discussion is just not fun with the Youtube format. My idea is that anyone can join, but there will be a channel for all patrons and for active users here who I frequently see engage in productive discussion. I don't plan on being very active myself but will post there about upcoming videos, thoughts, opinions and so on. Comment if you are interested.
The position-related tier names helped me structure my thoughts, but for a number of reasons it doesn't really make sense for me anymore. For now I will just use both variants and then I'll see which one it will be. See the second picture for the new/additional names.
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New video on Patreon: Riize OT7 dance ranking! Link to Patreon in the description
The votes were very close between Riize and Kiss of Life, so I will do a ranking/analysis of Kiof next month.
There will also be polls for the 3rd gen gg ranking, in particular about who to include from Dreamcatcher and WJSN as well as which lesser known groups to include. If you have wishes/thoughts about that, you can comment here too and I will take it into consideration for the poll.
Next month I want to make some shorts using my commercial tiers. Hint for the groups: they have member(s) who are said to be better in open style, though I've realised that.. it's a bit more complicated than that
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Finally! For the tiers, check the chapters in the description as they don't seem to be working at the moment
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Quiz: how many "MD+" (highest tier) are there in the 4th gen bg video?
Also, write your guesses in the comments! If you get at least 4 idols right I will give the comment a heart, and if you guess everyone correctly you can get a pinned comment for the video! Hint: one group has 2
since I decided to add everyone I know who is at least "high MD", a few more idols were added and overall there are 45:
(random order)
Shotaro, Yangyang
Harry June, Junseo (DKB)
Soul, Jiung (P1Harmony)
Jaemin, Seungwon, Yunhyeok (NTX)
Yeonjun, Taehyun (TXT)
Hwanwoong, Seoho (Oneus)
Hyunsuk (CIX)
Hwarang, Hanbin (Tempest)
Sunwoo, Q (The Boyz)
Junseo, Hangyul (Bae173)
Ni-ki, Jay (enhypen)
Jeon woong (Ab6ix)
Allen, Hyeongjun (Cravity)
Lim Jimin (Just B)
Yoojung (OnlyOneOf)
Lee Know, Hyunjin (Stray Kids)
Chan, Kyungho (To1)
Hoyoung, Yongseung (Verivery)
Donhan (WEi)
Wooyoung, San (Ateez)
Yunseong (Drippin)
Bic, Huijun (MCND)
Hyunsuk, Mashiho (Treasure)
Keita (Ciipher)
Leon (Trendz)
Gon (Vanner)
Siyoung (Mirae)
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Strongest 4th gen boy group dance-wise from mid-sized companies? (however you interpret this, like focus on dance line or on group average but feel free to comment your reasons)
You can already watch the 16-26 ranks part of the video on Patreon
www.patreon.com/posts/4th-gen-bg-16-26-102855667?uā¦
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Best 4th gen bg dance line (big4 groups)? Not counting WayV because the idols aren't necessarily 4th gen individually
Two announcements regarding the video:
1. I'm adding a "style description" "strengths" and "weaknesses" section for each idol, but especially the lower ranks won't have as many video examples as usual. It's very difficult to edit at the moment and I hope I can buy a new laptop soon lol. Expect more of a "ranking with reasons" than analysis video.
2. I'm adding all idols who are "MD +" and "high MD" tiers that I know of, so that at least the top ~17 are an actual ranking of the best. Obviously I'm still not aware of every single group, but that way it will make more sense as a ranking video in my opinion. There is only one group that has 3 members that high (can you guess), everyone else stays at 2 per group as it was.
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4th gen bg video update & new video on Patreon!
Something interesting about 4th gen is that a lot of the top talent is not in the most popular groups. NTX for example seems to have a solid dance line, and Jaemin (3rd guy in the linked video) in particular will probably rank high, so I encourage you to check him/the group out. They are one of the Peak Time groups, but I didn't pay attention until someone mentioned them recently.
At the same time it honestly worries me a little, since some of the popular groups don't have anyone above MD tier and the top10 consists of multiple 'nugu' idols. I hope the discussion will remain somewhat productive but..
The new Patreon video is about analysing a few battles. Comment if you want to know more! I will also post some polls about the future 3rd gen girl group ranking on Patreon starting tomorrow as it helps me to know early who I will be analysing.
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Check out this video to learn why "Boogaloo" is a better umbrella term than "popping", as well as more history around the style(s) and origins and other good additions to my points!
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Planned for March
On Patreon:
- analysing a few of my favourite dance battles
- first polls regarding girl group rankings and future videos
On Youtube:
- explaining how the gg tiers will work
- polls for opinions regarding the 4th gen bg ranking (the video will probably take some time though)
So far the lineup (based on my own decisions and patreon polls) for the 4th gen ranking, tell me if I forgot any notable group
Stray Kids - Lee Know, Hyunjin
MCND - BIC, Huijun
Cravity - Hyeongjun, Allen
Ateez - Wooyoung, San
The Boyz - Q, Sunwoo
TXT - Yeonjun, Taehyun
Enhypen - Ni-Ki, Jay
To1 - Chan, Kyungho
DKB - Harry June, Junseo
Ab6ix - Jeon Woong
Tempest - Hwarang
WEi - Donghan
Vanner - Gon
OnlyOneOf - Yoojung
Verivery - Hoyoung, Yongseung
NCT - Shotaro, Yangyang
Drippin - Yunseong
groups where Iām uncertain who to analyse (comment if I should pick someone else)
Oneus - Hwanwoong, Leedo
Treasure - Mashiho, Hyunsuk
P1Harmony - Soul, Jiung
CIX - Bae Jinyoung
Mirae - Junhyuk
Bae173 - Junseo; Hangyul or Muzin?
Just B - ?
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Iām analyzing and discussing kpop dance through the lens of my knowledge/experience in commercial, open/fusion style choreography and various āstreet stylesā. Because of my background in multiple styles I also want to acknowledge that there are different, often contradicting opinions among dancers on even the most fundamental aspects of dance. Different dance scenes, cultures and styles have different approaches, care about different things and have different technical demands.
About my rankings: There is no objective, agreed upon scale or list of criteria that one can follow, at least not for ever changing styles like the ones seen in kpop. Dance is an art form and many dancers donāt believe in rankings and ratings at all (and you donāt have to, either). I am trying to assess to what extent an idol has āmasteredā the different technical elements that are needed for commercial or open style choreography and how functional their overall technique is.