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Please watch 1:02:27
That’s Chinese public image for Wing Chun openly critics by Xu Xiao Dung.
What is the point of all those self proclaim experts who claim to know it all to get high in their small group, but Wing Chun become a joke in the China public?
https://youtu.be/_Ln7NhAJtbY?si=r9i7F...
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The missing slide of this YouTube due to technical problems,
https://youtu.be/su2aDbcukqQ?si=74eEl...
Contents :
0:00 intro
6:46 Hung Mun male play female role actor’s art
12:30 CHoe family Wing Chun history and art is not outsider’s speculation.
29:30 challenge fight
34:30 Ku Chai Wah’s baseless CHoe gar gate keeper claim.
43:09 Ku Chai Wah’s disrespect behavior towards Choy Lee fut grandmasters and CHoe family senior.
1:01:31 Emei expert ?
1:05:20 the 1850 Wing Chun classic, Emei 12 Zhuang , Samatha -Vipassana, y core elements
1:36:50 The truth of Wing Chun basic stance l
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Why do Wing Chunner not be able to clearly describe what is Wing Chun, it’s fighting uniqueness, and fight in the ring as they train? Similar to BJJ or Western boxing or Thaiboxing or Kyokushin Karate or Choy Lee Fut?
The answer is Because :
1, the universal law of fighting is core in attack and attack momentum combo. This is the universal truth in fighting since 1560 General Qi Jiguang’s military training to today’s MMA.
For example western boxing is core in jab, cross, hook, body short attack momentum , and jab, cross, hook combo; peekaboo …momentum combo …etc
Choy Lee Fut is core is Sou, kwa, chap attack momentum ; and Sou kwa chap attack momentum combo
Yet,
Wing Chun is core in Tan Bong Fook, which is a defend hand technique.
This is not the accord to universal fighting law but actually violate it and not accord with the teaching of General Qi Jiguang which state “ no blocking no resisting , focus on attack” or not chasing hand.
2,
In today’s Wing Chun,
due to :
A, there is no attack momentum , and attack momentum combo training such as the western boxing jab cross hook; peakaboothere
B, there is no fighting uniqueness and no real life fighting momentum level of training such as a western boxer who train in jab cross hook; peakaboo. (You don’t see western boxer who train in peakaboo fight with teakwando kick.)
Thus, There is no way to have fighting uniqueness but everyone’s intepretation of what is Wing Chun and using western boxing jab cross hook, wrestling under hook, teakwando round kick… etc.
Thus, today’s Wing Chun is not a style but a conceptual idea not up to the level of world wide fighting art. That’s why Bruce Lee called it “ land swiming” in 1969 ; he quit and create his own style JKT. Look at Bruce in real life fighting after his fight with Jackman Wong and quit Wing Chun does him focus in attack ?
3, ancient Wing Chun’s fighting momentum combo can analogy to peakaboo of western boxing, is named as sticking body short strike. As describe in the following YouTube.
https://youtu.be/Xfn_BqHAysY?si=gOSNi...
The basic fighting attacking momentum and momentum combo is describing in the following two YouTubes.
https://youtu.be/0Rpm3aBWZU0?si=-GvqP...
https://youtu.be/Ev9IsMwWSS4?si=fjqAA...
4, it is by Chinese historical evidence, now we do know, since 1870 the creation of the mother of today’s Wing Chun. It has gone off track from attack momentum , and attack momentum combo training: lost in Tan bong fook, chain punch, and open interprate philosophical concept. Add in Taiji philosophy, Taiji woo woo qi and fajin. But no longer ever again following the sticking body short strike as it is , such as in the IpMan movies it is still using the term sticking body shot strike 貼身短打，but no longer know what it is.
In conclusion; today’s Wing Chun since 1870, is seeing the tree ( hand techniques) not seeing the forest ( attacking momentum and attacking momentum combo ). Violating the universal law of fighting in its training,
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I make this post to stir up the problem, Wing Chun must reform, the next generation must rise. Cant keep live in the past. New grandmasters must rise from the West. Because they are the hope and future of Wing Chun.
In past 150 years China has done its job great in the bad and difficult political and war environment To pass down Wing Chun , even it is not as clear as Japanese Jujitsu or okinawan’ Bubishi which is filled with the authentic Chinese fighting momentum and fighting momentum combo as the following YouTube.
https://youtu.be/wixhD0j4vUE?si=V90nC...
But the Chinese grandmasters do their best. That have to give them respect and credit.
However, now , we do know what the ancient wing Chun is and we face the modern growing world, as general qi Jiguang address in 450 years ago. ‘ what you don’t know will get you. One must continue to learn and grow.”
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I am open to anyone’s asking me question or disagree with me,
but that’s not jumping into conclusion using one’s opinion or believe without evidence or out of contexture.
Anyone who can’t practice proper discussion twice will be blocked from my YouTube channel.
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Does Wing Chun Bong push something upward like lifting weights? Or what it is?
People can argue with different grandmasters or lineages view. But that’s not neccesary.
sorry, In history record i trust, in grandmasters and lineages I dont. I like to know what is bong instead of what is the speculation since 1870.
As in Classical Chinese one must use the preceding writing to define the present writing.
The following is how Wing Chun 1850’s writing describe bong and General Qi Jiguang ‘s 1560 writing is source of Wing Chun 1850 writing. That’s what bong is as it.
For those who don’t know Classical Chinese, I have translate them as the following photo. ( from my book “kung fu 1560” and “ wing Chun inception”)
Time to stop all those internal Wing Chun, Taiji Fajin Wing Chun….. oldest Wing Chun secret Wing Chun Shaolin Weng chun is Wing Chun ...speculation.
We today in the USA has the details historical records to know what is Wing Chun.
Just a simple bong , we can screen out lots of things.
No one can cheat.
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When it comes to martial arts . There is a base line on Living in fantasy or living in reality.
1, History is what happen in the reality which can be tracked and verified , Not stories. Not opinion.
Wing Chun is a traditional Chinese martial art, There is a based line for Wing Chun history. As in the following article.
2, There is a based line standard of who is the real grandmaster of Wing Chun.
According to Chinese definition grandmaster or 宗師
宗師一詞最早出自《莊子 大宗師》，「宗」指敬仰、尊崇，「大宗師」意思是最值得敬仰的、尊崇的老師，也就是「道」，意為開創、傳授道理，有成就又受人尊崇的老師，簡稱大師、宗師。
For example, on Grandmaster are Mas Oyama who founded Kyokushin kai karate and Helio Gracie of BJJ. Not anyone can be a grandmaster. Or everyone can named themselve or their teacher as they like in the stories or movies as grandmaster.
Violating the proper ranking naming is the reason the Chinese mma players such as Xu Xiao Dung refer those as Fake grandmaster.
wingchun2017.wordpress.com/2024/08/09/wing-chun-as…
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For the Wing Chunners who wants to face the reality.
wingchun2017.wordpress.com/2024/08/09/wing-chun-as…
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Wing Chun tragic today is ppl don’t read don’t comprehend but dream as they wish.
Fighting art is a professional, Wing Chun 1850 is a military training. Not those king of Wing Chun or grandmasters of Wing Chun or best fighter of Wing Chun hearsay, legend, movies. There is no such thing in real Chinese Kung fu since 1650. Even the Japanese warrior get ambush in China and take out by General Qi Jiguang’s army.
Put Bruce Lee, IpMan, and all those so called legend or king of kungfu in real battle and see how long they can last? Just look at when Japanese invade China, how many of those so called Chinese kungfu grandmasters actually fight with the Japanese? In canton, in real Chinese history, only the Choy Lee fut school fight the Japanese invasion and there is no king of Kung fu but ppl sacrificed and get kill for the country and ppl. Internal art? Sorry, no records in internal art ever beat western boxing since 1900 in real Chinese history.
Wing Chun 1850 is an education , even if one learn it, it has its strength, still in today’s world martial arts has evolve much further . As general Qi Jiguang says, “ what you don’t know is going to strike /kill you. One must keep learning and updating “ . One needs to spar with other styles keep learning.
So, it is idiotic to think the common Kung fu daydream as reality.
Toto, it is not Kansas any more. Wake up.
There are three world:
The world as in the movie/ within one’s school play and have all kind of my sifu my lineage is the best. The world of fighting sport Ring such as Western boxing, Thai boxing, mma, kyokushin. and the world of military. Which world are you living in?
The three world:
The world as in the movie/ within one’s school play and have all kind of my sifu my lineage is the best.
The world of fighting sport Ring such as Western boxing, Thai boxing, mma, kyokushin. Where physical endurance is the soul.
the world of military, no one is competing with you, the goal is to take you out of the battle field with all means asap. General qi Jiguang did it in 1560, 6 of his men take out a Japanese warrior very fast with very low casualty with the his premeditative mandarin duck array based on the Japanese warrior’s weakness.
Which one does one train in?
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I spend 45 years to solve the what is wing Chun problem. Now it has been solved, and path way connecting with modern science has been completed.
https://youtu.be/E1Jo3T2g-W8?si=QS1B5...
So, what has been lost for 170 years now known. Case, close. That’s all what I want.
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What can be expected when using 1850’s Wing Chun as describe in the following YouTube to spar with other martial styles.
https://youtu.be/E1Jo3T2g-W8?si=nrmXy...
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