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Another huge advantage is that the stick grenades rolled a lot less than conventional grenades. A very important consideration you are attacking the high ground .
The bundled grenades were often used in roles similar to the satchel charge where the weight and awkwardness wasn't such an issue.
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You got an easy 50m range and you can throw it very accurate, it was specifically designed to be offensive use. Defensive grenade were egg (eier) shaped and had no stick attached. When I served in the German army we had stick grenade training dummies and used those in exercises. I could around 60m and near enough hit a bucket. With the DM51 I got about 40m defensive and 45m offensive. So my personal feeling is the stick grenade is way better in offensive use, the DM51 or other similar in defensive, because you can have more
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The most built German hand grenade in WW2 was not the style stick grenade, but the M39 egg hand grenade.
This also had a detonator on a drawstring.
There were even 2 types of this. A blue trigger with a 5 second delay, and a red one with a 1 second delay!
The last one was used for booby traps, or simply left this hand grenade lying around so that it fell into the hands of the enemy and he blew himself up when using the hand grenade because he actually expected a longer delay... ;-)
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the germans also had small grenades called eihandgranate 39, which was produced in even larger numbers than the stick grenades. It also had options for different fuses so it could be used as booby trap
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My grandfather was in WWII and was a heavy machine gunner. He had a lot of respect for German weapons because they were well made and very deadly. The one distinct advantage in an American grenade is the spoon. A German soldier had to throw their grenades within 5 seconds while the spoon allowed an American to hold on to it until they were ready. One other advantage could perhaps be that it was smaller and not only easier to carry but aim it into smaller openings. However, my grandfather had said that the German potato masher was a more accurate weapon to throw. He never said how he knew that, and I can only imagine how he did.
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An interesting fact is this question presented itself as a Grass is Greener scenario during the war. Germans often liked salvaging the American Grenades because they were easier to carry in bulk, and many Americans prefer the German grenade because of its greater range.
The Germans actually did both themselves as they did issue their own small rounded grenade and in higher quantities than the stick as they served different roles as offensive and defensive grenades.
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Believe I've read somewhere that many U.S. soldiers never even threw a grenade outside of training. It was apparently quite common for U.S. soldiers to give their grenades to the members of their squad who were best at throwing. So some guys may never have thrown a grenade and others may have thrown everyone else's during an engagement! Interesting thought.
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The biggest advantage of the stick grenade is that you can put spikes on it and run around pretending to be a medieval knight with a very explosive temper.
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Greetings from Switzerland. In the 1980s I still drilled with the stick grenade, which was in service until the 1990s. I liked the old stick grenades better: I could throw them farther, they were useful for house fighting and the ripcord detonation made them easy to use for personal traps. It was a good and modular Weapon, with 300 Gramm TNT. I remember, that I screwed 3 Grenades together and still throwed it. There was a module with 1.5 kg TNT, that you could screw on and another anti personmodule (fragment grenade). ๐ฅ
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Dad, who spent eighteen months as a POW , courtesy of one of these grenades, told me that the blast from these was more vertical than British grenades.. I've no idea if this was true, but he did have first hand experience.
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In Russia it was found that the stick grenade would catch on tree branches when thrown in forests .
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Ahh, the stick grenade! The best melee weapon of all time!
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I'd go with the allied grenade because of the spoon. As long as you hold the spoon down the grenade isn't armed. Once you throw the grenade and the spoon falls away only then is the grenade activated. With the stick as soon as you pull the chord you have 5 seconds to throw it or else. Heck, you can even disable a pineapple by returning the pin.
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I learned that one of the main considerations when using a stick grenade was having unobstructed airspace, so it could be thrown in a high arc. That is why the 'Eier' grenate was preferred in wooded, forested areas, where it could be thrown with precision past obstacles like treetrunks and leafy branches.
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I wasn't in the military so I can't say how far I could throw an American grenade. But, just looking at the two it seems that you could throw the German grenade further.
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Germany also had a baseball grenade
You had to unscrew the cap on the bottom and pull the bead just like the potato masher
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The Germans actually used more of their egg shaped grenade than the stick in ww2
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Thanks for answering this info and bringing back my age old question! When I was a kid in the US in the 60's, it was just 20 years after the war, and we kids would pretend we were soldiers, building fox holes with leaves, dressing up in army uniforms with toy guns, boots, helmets, etc. I was puzzled why our soldiers used the sphere shaped grenades and not the German type because I noticed I could throw a stick, especially if most of the weight was at the top, much further. This was confusing because kids are one dimensional thinkers and I believed our side must be better at everything than the other side.
When I got older and worked in the military weapons industry, I remembered that childhood question, but I had no place to find the answer easily because there was no Internet, and weapons design is departmentalized. Since then, I forgot about this until I saw your video. Of course as an adult, I realize while we, the allies, were better at some things, the Germans did a lot of things better than us, but fortunately for us, not enough to win the war.
I believe their grenade design is better, and likely it is pride, for lack of a better guess, that kept us from emulating it. The shape is not the cause of the carrying issue, they failed to design an efficient carrying mechanism. For example, several could have been inserted in to a belt similar to how 50 cal are loaded, in otder to limit space, and this belt could have been strapped over the shoulders or attached to a backpack. Also, they could have wrapped and tied this belt into a cylinder shape and carried in their backpack.
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The Stick Grenade was specialised for melee combat. Truly a technological marvel
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