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I havnt heard the full whaikorero so I probably shouldn't comment but I am going to anyway. Both Tainui and Ngati Whatua have a shared history and occupation in the wider Tamaki Makaurau area. In acknowledgement of that shared history and occupation ,Ngati Whatua should have shared manawhenua status with Tainui, especially for an event like Te Matatini, which is a celebration of kapahaka for the whole of Te Ao Maori. I wish the full story was being told in this article as there's obviously something goin on between these two iwi that's not being talked about. If its being addressed in the courts then it must be about iwi boundaries, resources or even the right to be acknowledged as having Manawhenua status. Sad that this flared up at Te Matatini. Maybe a little HUMILITY on behalf of both parties could have been more beneficial to these two iwi working out there differences. I must say it makes sense now as I was wondering why some groups who performed at Te Matatini acknowledged only Ngati Whatua, but some acknowledged both Ngati Whatua and Tainui. One of the preforming groups from Te Tau ihu from Ngati Koata mentioned in their performance about the renowned Tanui warrior called Kawharu leading Ngati Whatua on the 'Raupatutihore' which was the conquest of the Wai o Hua and Kawerau a Maki people living in Tamaki Makaurau and Waitakere around approx 1675-1700. Sometimes we have to remember and acknowledge that which connects us rather that which divides us.
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Historical moment in Maoridom. The young people are brought up to speed in the current politics that goes back generations. I'd call this progress. Never saw it in my lifetime because we were busy fighting the crown. This act tells me we've moved a comfortable way along the bicultural fight to attend to tribal matters. The crown knows to stay well clear and our future generation understands the work ahead of them. No bad thing. It's exciting to witness these arguments. Oooo I bet the kitchen was in a vibrant mood that day.
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As a Samoan this is interesting to watch and hear cause I always thought that land boundaries were already clear.
I hope this opens up a dialect into Maori matters that need to be touched on and paves a way forward.
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The back and forth is awesome! It happens a lot in our Samoan occasions like a funeral for example. Mainly over money though and someone feeling disrespected over how much they got 😅😅
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i know it’s not the nicest thing to fight about (especially when the rest of the country has its eyes on you) but sometimes, conflict keeps the spirit and culture alive lol it’s also really nice to see indigenous folk be so protective of what they have left in a colonised country
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That’s why you should leave the pae pae to kaumatua, and the wero to warriors, and the karanga to the Kuia, and Kai to the cooks.
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As non Maori I thought it was good to see tribes talk it out, no different to Parliament House where you’re not going to please everyone.
For me it was a good experience to watch, first time seeing something like this.
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What a great story. Thankyou. You could feel the tension. Im not an expert, but ive been told that the powhiri which ive been witness to on many occasion, is the place to speak your truth. Good and bad. Ive witnessed very powerful and strong Whaikōrero, and the theater and spectacle is amazing. Im not fluent in Te Reo, but watching and listening to what happened at the Powhiri @ Te Matatini this year, will reverberate around the motu for many years to come. The gentleman said" there will be haka and waiata about this" and I certainly believe it. May Mr Hepiri RIP.
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chills @ 7:50 when the backing track kicks in....like something out of a movie ! great production quality and overall such a fascinating perspective for those of us looking from the outside in
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Thank you for putting this up. They kept this out of the mainstream media. Robust conversations are good. I had no idea Tainui were part of that region. Just checked the maps and yellow yep the boundaries are shared. Learned something new.
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Wow.! That's so special..!! And so spectacular to experience in the modern era.. I love that it's so genuinely Māori.. However, what is also tikanga Māori is the spite / bitterness that will be ongoing as the events of this occasion will reverberate into the future. It's exhilarating.!!
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Ngāti Whātua ki Orākei has a beautiful richness of relationships and connections. Apihai Te Kawau who gifted most of Auckland to the new settlers should be honored and respected through his (Tarahawaiki) Father's people Te Taoū - Ngāti Whātua o Kaipara; and through his mother's(Mokorua) people Te Waiohua, Ngāoho, Ngāiwi - Tainui. What I appreciated was Tarahawaiki and Mokorua having a difference of opinion over ownership instead of a relationship. Honored and privileged to witness history - we have survived, we are alive, and it ain't finished'
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As a Sāmoan I found it interesting watching this interaction between the two tribes.
Reminded me of Samoan Tulafale (orator chief) going back and forth with each other during funerals, ceremonies, birthdays, weddings and all.
Surely there should be a written legal document so both could make official and draw line.
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Good Man Te Kura, saying things many want to but are too scared to. Neke Mai !
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Oohhhh my.......I am Tainui and Ngati Whatua to the core, Dad is from Ngati Koroki and my Mum Is Nga Puhi and Ngati Whatua, So for me personally i agree to what both sides said. Each had their rights to speak facts and truth.....I wish it didn't happen on that particular day, but it is what it is whanau. #Matatini2023 was Tu Meke😎
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Mr Harawira, I am great full to have been taught some tikanga by you. And proud to see the person you have become. Tumeke bro Ngapuhi nui tonu.
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Thank you for covering this for those of us outside Aotearoa at the moment, an important event in Māoridom and between our Iwi. A shame it has to go through Pākehā courts. Please keep reporting.
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an old kaumatua told me this is why alot of tribes signed the treaty, to get protection from this constant squabbling and attacks
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Entertaining and cheeky. These are not the korero of the people but between two. One insulting the other but to mention iwi. It is not anyones to say, cause we dont all feel the same way. You both spread hate, old fears of history that we can all do without. We all came from Hawaiki, same branch, same tree, same people MAORI.
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@samratulevu8228
1 year ago
As a Fijian ITaukei, I find this is a good method of discussing issues between clans and tribes. Nowadays, alot of our history is shared and discussed amongst our own tribes and clans, and youths get confused which version is the right history and which is the wrong one, which leads to conflict. This public display though not common in pacific island culture is a great platform to publicly address issues head on transparently, because our generation needs to witness, learn their culture and history, true history. Our elders are great orators, and this would be great way for them to show us how it's done.
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