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0:00 - Intro
1:03 - Phonetic Inventory
2:34 - Vowels
3:16 - Syllable Structures
4:33 - Typology
5:00 - Ural-Altaic Languages
6:02 - Outro
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We actually have popular jokes making fun of how japanese sounds like:
What do you call a japanese car repair shop?
Hajosikotoyotasi = hajosiko toyotasi = did your toyota break down
(Edit: I had no idea this kind of jokes were so universal)
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Sentence structure can also be surprisingly similar at times.
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Vowel length does matter in Japanese in the exact same way as the Finnish example you gave. This comes up all the time but one common example is ใใซ (building) ใใผใซ (beer).
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The only way it sounds similar to me is the rhythm of it, but tbf, I do speak Japanese, so I'm hyper aware of all the very non Japanese characteristics of Finnish.
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They actually do sound similar, but the accents definetely give it away, if one was to speak in others language it would probably be hard to tell they are
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My friends hear Karelian singing for the first time and ask me, what (Chinese) dialect is this
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I have been thinking the same and i actually live in finland ๐
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Finnish according to me: monotone
Japanese according to me: โ๏ธโ๏ธโ๏ธโ๏ธ
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idk about sounding similar but they do have a lot of same words but they just mean different things examples:
Kita
finnish: jaws
japanese: north
Hana
finnish: tap
japanese: flower
Kani
finnish: Bunny
japanese: crab
Kutsu
finnish: invitation
japanese: shoes
Kasa
finnish: pile
japanese: umbrella
tori
finnish: marketplace
japanese: bird
nami
finnish: sweets
japanese: wave
risu
finnish: twig
japanese: squirrel
sora
finnish: gravel
japanese: sky
taru
finnish: myth
japanese: barrel
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One thing about Japanese is that it used to have vowel harmony just like Finnish, but then it dropped its front vowels and hence it no longer needs it.
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I've learnt Japanese when I was younger and am learning Finnish now! It does surprise me when I listen to Finnish words and question if it is actually Japanese instead, thanks for solving my question which I've been overthinking for months!
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stops are plosives are interchangeble. It's not because plosives have a puff of air and stops don't. In fact, Japanese stops /p t k/ have more aspiratition than finnish stops /p t k/.
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I always make the joke that Japanese and Italian made a baby and their baby's name is Finnish ๐
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I really liked the comparison between Finnish and Japanese, they have a lot of phonology in common, the intonation is similar. They are Asian Altaic languages. The sounds "in,on, en, an, un" the sounds "ka, Ke, ki, ko, ki,ku" "ta, te, ti, to, tu". I'm just talking about phonology and phonetics, there are even more interesting ones that build bridges between the 2 languages. I'm not surprised at all that Japanese passed through Siberia before reaching the Japanese islands, and the Finnish language left Siberia for the Scandinavian peninsula and never stopped being an Asian language. Cool video, I really enjoyed it.
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As a Finn learning Japanese, I've always found the language highly intuitive compared to something like Russian or Mandarin. The first thing that immediately popped up at me was how many similar words there are. Just off the top of my head:
Kasa - 'pile' in Finnish, 'umbrella' in Japanese
Aki - masculine first name in Finnish, 'autumn' / feminine first name in Japanese
Kana - 'chicken' in Finnish, feminine first name in Japanese.
If you ignore the pitch accent, the Japanese vowel consonant pairs, the Japanese 'r'/'l' sound being a mix of both, and couple of the more out there Finnish vowels, they're not all that different phonetically. Which is crazy considering there's seemingly no relation between the languages. And don't even get me started on the cultural similarities between the two countries.
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You pronounced "tuli" as something like "thuli" and "tuuli" as "thuyli". It is very strange how anglos struggle with these things.
EDIT: I want to point out that native Finnish speakers couldn't even pronounce "thuyli" without some training. It violates vowel harmony and worse yet, it does so within a single syllable!
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Ural-Altaic is not abandoned as a convergence zone however. There was real contact between these in the old days, even if they weren't related.
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its obviously a stretch to say they sound the same but some words do sound pretty japanese
the spoken version of katsoa is katoa which sounds especially japanese when you conjugate it in the te imperative form (katokaa)
the imperative forms of odottaa sound pretty japanese too (odota, odotakaa, etc) although in spoken finnish its usually shortened to oota
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Both languages lack prepositions and definite/indefinite articles, which I believe is one factor what rhythms the Indo-European languages differently. In Indo-European languages, large proportion of the subjects, predicates and objects consist of two separate parts, at least in English this is the case.
Another phonetic feature is that in both Japanese and Finnsih short wovels and elongated vowels are not pronounced as diphthongs, and when we want to make a diphthong, it's more clear. Starting with one properly pronounced vowel and then transforming into another, with the exception of letter "i", which can be sometimes pronounced similar to letter "y" in English (e.g. whey, nay, yet). And since front and back vowels are regarded as completely separate vowels in Finnish, you have to have the mouth already in the right shape when you start pronouncing/voicing each vowel. English is more "lazy" in this aspect, and many of your short vowels sound like diphthongs to Finns. I'm pretty sure it's the same for Japanese because when they try to mimic a foreign accent, beside the pitch pattern and stress, that's what they change on their pronunciation. Good example of this difference is how you pronounced 'tyuuli' instead of 'tuuli' on this video. It's only a short beginning of that elongated vowel but it still sounds wrong to native speaker. How you pronounced that word is easily understandable but it's these kinds of dipthongs that give a strong foreign accent to your Finnish.
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@mp2956
1 month ago
No. It doesn't
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