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I tried FLIPPING a PC..... Lessons were learned.
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00:00 - Buying the PC!
03:03 - Inspecting the PC!
05:22 - PC "Renovation" Ideas!
07:12 - First Test Boot!
08:15 - Renovation Costs!
09:00 - Cleaning & Renovation!
10:17 - Technical Difficulties, of course...
13:20 - Test Boot with New Mobo!
14:40 - I Discovered the Issue!
15:56 - Compromises Were Made
17:20 - How's the PC Running Tho?
18:13 - My Craigslist Ad!
19:09 - The Flipping Struggle is Real
21:55 - My Final Offer Cometh - Flip or Flop?
22:37 - My Takeaways From This Experience!
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@Bitwit

2 years ago

Oh boy. There's already been an update (*spoiler* to the end of the video): The winning eBay bidder may have flaked out. After the auction ended, he asked to "negotiate," demanding a lower price than his winning bid. After I declined, he said that he is "still trying to decide" if he'll be going through with the purchase. I won't hold my breath 😑. I guess the PC is still on the table, but it will be tricky to flip now that the video is public, as it increases the risk of fraudulent buyers. Conversely, buyers aware that this is a "YouTuber PC" may pay more for it (oddly), compromising the integrity of this whole flipping experiment. Not sure if there's any potential content here for a follow-up video, but any suggestions are welcome! Side note: Oof yeah, I should have swapped back the original motherboard once I got the SSD working. I'm not sure how much it matters now, but that was a complete brain fart on my end. Certainly not the last!

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@mokeishrajan4202

2 years ago

When I heard the $1000 price tag I already knew he was doomed. You can build a similar spec with a i5 10400f and RTX 3060 brand new for that price. Who would buy a 5 year old spec with no warranty and old features when compared to a brand new spec, with warranty and the latest features.

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@joeyd199

2 years ago

What Kyle forgot to mention is eBay also collects a 10-12% cut of the final price, including the shipping costs. So the loss is actually closer to $400, which just sucks for him. Sounds like the buyer is a dick tip as well trying to negotiate after the auction. Eat the loss as a science experiment and move on.

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@shawndoll6128

2 years ago

Also, being honest in your listing goes a long way. You posted the original specs and then would tell the buyer the specs had changed. That throws buyers off cause they start thinking “what else is different” or doubt your honesty. Why did you have to replace the MB? They won’t care about your reasoning, because you weren’t upfront on the listing they won’t believe your reasoning when you tell them.

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@techyescity

2 years ago

you look excited as in this video (Great to see brother, well at least the first half LOL). The scene is HEAPS of fun. Though with flips it always comes down to the three main components, bling, CPU and GPU, always maximize value for the highest of all three. the motherboard and extra costs threw that build out easily. As for those problems, two different mobos and two different ssds with problems, most likely would point towards a semi faulty power supply.

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@NoobSniper

2 years ago

Once the SSD was determined to be the issue and the board was good, I would've put it back in the build. The RGB was a nice touch and definitely something to catch the eye. While the all white build was clean and sleek, that is much more niche of a style than your standard RGB out the wazoo build. And the loss of onboard wifi too. But hey, live and learn, thanks for recording your experience of flipping a PC!

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@docgiggs

2 years ago

I've been selling computers and computer parts for decades. Kyle, you have a lot to learn. Be careful buying any part from CL as it is more than likely not working. Always have it turned on first and stress tested before buying. Never buy it just upon visual inspection without trying it out. You'll get screwed over almost every time. There are a ton of scammers out there. The mindset is treat EVERYONE as a scammer when buying or selling anything used. You got lucky to not be scammed. Also, "flipping" parts isn't that easy unless you are paying pawn shop prices. What you bought was about what I could call normal street actual buy price. Meaning at what you paid for $1000, you weren't ever going to get anything more than that. If you were actually wanting to flip it, you should have paid no more than $600 for that to sell for $1000. Most people also aren't looking on CL to buy $1000+ used PCs typically. Last year due to the nature of the world and computer market was about the only time I have ever seen in 3 decades of doing this (sometimes as my full time job) that I saw a huge demand for any sort of gaming PC regardless of the price and where it was being sold. Lastly, as mentioned earlier, most people don't give two craps about looks when buying a PC when factoring in cost 99% of the time if they are not building it themselves. You probably would have made more money splitting up the cpu+mobo+ram and then the GPU separately with everything else pieced out. Also, selling on more dedicated websites for used PC gear like Tomshardware, OCForums, Anandtech, and HardOCP (the owner of the site is a tool though) are much better when trying to flip when piecing out the parts individually.

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@nq77777

2 years ago

Flipping for 2 years. In my experience buyers who usually buy custom builds off craigslist and OfferUp buy because of the lower price. When you get to a certain point, buyers just wont appreciate the extra cosmetic stuff. Also, eBay auctions are usually lower than "Buy it now" pricing. Starting buyitnow price should have been set at $999 + shipping with offers enabled. Once you encounter an acceptable offer... accept. Lastly, activating Windows 10 Pro goes a longggg way. Instead of heatsinc covers and custom sleeves.... YOU SHOULD HAVE ACTIVATED WINDOWS FOR LOCAL BUYERS! lol Flipping from the standpoint of an average seller on local markets is incredibly competitive. Nice to see videos like this showing the reality and risks. Love your channel!

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@Hated_Sien

2 years ago

If you figured out it was the SSD that caused the issue, why not put the original MOBO back in and that would give you the RGB back?

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@woutchauvaux6672

2 years ago

why didnt you just put the original mobo back in after you found out that the ssd was messing up? That way you could actually sell it the way it was instead of having to tell a potential buyer after the fact

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@VashNyght

2 years ago

1 you should have just waited for the original drive to be wiped 2 you should have put the old motherboard back in after you determined the drive was the issue

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@ChrisCookley

2 years ago

I think one of my favorite things from this video was seeing how far in advance Kyle is recording these before they go live. December 15 2021 he was ordering the parts?? That's 3 months ago!

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@ccgert

2 years ago

"Can't imagine its the new Drive." Its the drive

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@paulshardware

2 years ago

Nice video Kyle! But oof... That's a tough loss. I have to imagine price trends for GPUs in particular hurt your potential profits between December and March. Great lesson for any entrepreneurial PC builders who have considered attempting this as a business though 👍

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@Falcon_Bricks

2 years ago

This is the earliest i’ve ever been on a bitwit vid, love the vids! they help so much!

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@kevinwinterbottom8900

2 years ago

Hey Kyle, long time vieweer, first time commenter. I side hustle alot in the used PC flipping marked, and i would say your biggest mistake is not knowing your marked - Your listing was written as it was to a PC enthusiast that knows what kind of PC hardware they should be looking for, but that is not your target audience. You want to sell to a first time buyer (a young kid or parent), someone who does not know what a i7 8700k or a GTX 1080 is - but someone who wants to play Fortnite. So target to them - i'm not saying you should not disclose the hardware you are selling, but tell the potential buyer in "normal human words" what they are buying. - And remember to use words they know like RGB, game titles, Nvidia brand name, but don't dwell on Ram clock speeds and other technical information - They are only to be added as a side note. Something like: Hey there, i'm selling my super nice RGB graming PC rig, because i was lucky enough to get my hands on a sweet new upgraded rig. This is the perfect starter PC for anyone who wants to game Fortnite, Minecraft, League of Legends, Counter Strike. It can pull any game in mid to high detail in full HD, and most esports titles on high and even in better resolution. (So here i told them why i am selling it (it's not because its broke, but i got a new PC upgrade to releave any doubts) and what they can use it for. As a parent their kid is saying "Mom, get me a PC that can play Fortnite with Ninja on", they don't say, get me a 8700k with lots of Ram and GTX grafics card, because 95% of the people looking to a cheap PC don't know what they are, and won't spend the time researching it) That being said after you have told them what i can, it's ok to confuse them a little - tell them about cores, graphics etc - you have already ticked the boxes (Can it do what i need?, is the price right?, and does it look good?) This PC costs 2500 dollars from new when i bought it, it has 6 intel cores wioth 12 threads, Nvidia GTX 1080 a graphics card that still holds up to day. (now you can copy paste your preivous listing showing the specs (this will make sure you appeal to the PC enthusiasts also) - You don't want to aliante them, but they are only 5% of your market. That being said, NEVER spend money on PC parts, it's a black hole, and you will never get that money back. You can clean the PC, take stuff out of it, and make it look nice, but never add anything from new, because it's a sunk cost. What ever you take out you can save, and thats ok to add to another flip later on, because it didn't cost you anything (i have boxes of extra fans, and other stuff that i can use) I make around 5k USD a year as a side hustle / hobby on buying and selling PC's, and i mostly buy from people like you in the video, who does not know how to market the PC, have bad discriptions or in some cases bad pictures. I don't waste my time on anything i can't make a minimum of 300-500USD on - it's not worth spending 5 hours to make a 100 bucks right? Then you might as well go get a real job. You can't force finding a good deal though, you have to keep your eyes open at all times, have cash ready - wait for a bargain to come along, and be ready to strike fast - as in "Hey, can i buy your PC today for X amount (always a little less then they are asking) if i pick it up today and pay cash" EVERY seller values a quick deal and in 9 out of 10 instances give you a discount for a quick deal. And every dollar saved is a dollar earned! Best of luck on your next flip - hope it's not as big of a flop that this was! Kevin (Long time fan of Lyle)

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@MyNameIsBucket

2 years ago

The first thing I learned about flipping PCs is turning Trash to Treasure. Taking a dude's already fully assembled PC, making some cosmetic or barely noticeable "upgrades" and trying to turn a profit is just this side of scalping. Hell, even dropping a low-power GPU into a workstation with integrated graphics would've been better than this.

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@ocelotxp

2 years ago

Selling a complete system you're always going to take a loss Parting it out ALWAYS, ALWAYS yields more money

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@JacksGameReviews

2 years ago

One does not simply flip a PC Those bad boys are heavy

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@tiberius5389

2 years ago

Kyle fight the Lazy Side of the Force! Swap back in the other board to restore the features. Lyle would have done it right ! 😁

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