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Date of upload: Premiered Jun 4, 2021 ^^
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In Australia thereās a show that tries to deal with this. Itās called āyou canāt ask thatā, and people send in all types of (often terrible) ignorant questions about different marginalised groups. Each episode has a few members from a marginalised group who have volunteered to be on the show, instead of random people who might not feel prepared to tackle difficult questions. They read out, often react to, answer, and discuss the questions with each other and to the camera. Not only is it great for any ānormieā TV viewer to become more educated about marginalised groups, itās also a fantastic way for people from different marginalised groups to learn about each other.
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I think this is a good conversation to have about activism, but I find a lot of people who say "It is not my job to educate you" are referring to the fact that marginalization is NOT the same as activism. Black people do not need to answer people's questions about race simply because they're black online. Gay people don't need to answer questions about their sexuality umprompted. People are not inherently political because of their social position, and that is what I often get from the phrase.
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"just google it" is especially frustrating to hear in the disabled community, where everyone has a different experience. i have a deformity that corrects itself in 95% of people - googling it will tell you nothing about actually living with the condition, nevermind my specific experience with comorbidities.
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The thing I end up doing most often is if someone asks me a question I will respond with "First tell me how much you already know about this subject so I know what information to give you." This is a technique I use when training new people at work, but it also works when people ask invasive questions about marginalized people. It puts the onus on them as the one asking the question to have to put energy and effort into the conversation instead of just heaping it all on the marginalized person. It can force someone to engage in some critical thinking about what information they have already absorbed on the topic and sometimes why they are even asking the question in the first place. Obviously any response should be situationally and personally determined, but this is a bit of a good middle ground place between saying "just google it" and taking all the effort upon yourself to educate someone.
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Thank you!!!!! As a lefty who has been in a lot of leftist spaces in the rural midwest of America, it is really hard for me to deal with the kind of "just google it sweaty" sorts of people because I've met so many people who are legitimately empathetic and want to help with LGBT+, disability, racial, and other social issues but really don't know where to start or how to engage, and the very callous and sometimes nasty response puts them off. I totally get not having the headspace to educate someone, but a lot of people legitimately do want to understand social issues that they just have little to no exposure to. At those kinds of union meetings and leftist spaces in the midwest, I literally can't count how many rural American farmers and factory workers I've been able to pull leftwards on social issues that they just didn't have the exposure to in order to understand. People forget how our education systems often erase the plight of marginalized people, which is why it's important to spread that message far and wide.
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I think this is one of those things where there's no one real "right" answer, and it's super situational. Like, if someone is not positioning themself as an educator or activist (just out there living their life online), then yeah they really have no obligation to spend time walking strangers through a topic that might be very sensitive to them or answer questions that seem weirdly intrusive/personal. But when I see "just google it" from people who ARE framing themself as educators or online activists yet seem like they're happy to soak up the shares and likes, but not to answer follow-up questions at all (especially if it's on a topic that impacts said would-be educator less directly/painfully), then I'll be honest I'm gonna side-eye that a bit. Sometimes platforms come with responsibilities.
Edit: Just want to make this clear, I was intending for the emphasis of my comment to be on the first part not on the last sentence. Most people online aren't putting themselves out there as educators or full-time activists and organizers, even if they do make the occasional information post or engage in activism. Especially if it's an intrusive question or a painful topic or there's just more questions than they can handle, I think they're justified in just muting the thread and moving on like 9 times out of 10. And honestly that 1 can just be a link to a resource rather than an in-depth convo or argument. And even if you do try to engage in public education or activism more seriously, you're still not obligated to answer every question you come across (again, especially intrusive questions, painful topics or if you're "off the clock". Like, I've seen people demanding simple answers to complex questions on casual selfies). What I was trying to get at with the last part (side-eyeing people happy to accept positive attention for being on the right side of something that affects them less personally, but less willing to do the work) was not at all saying that just because someone is involved in activism they are supposed to be willing to talk to everyone one-on-one. That would be just incredibly unreasonable to ask of anyone.
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I also find that allies sometimes do more harm than good by being overzealous. Yelling at people who ars confused, overpowering the actual marginalised people who might be willing to have the discussion. It's especially very young allies, because they may lack experience and often have very black and white thinking (which I definitely also had their age).
But the most amusing ti me is when a content creator appologises for something insensitive and 80% of the replies are "if you're not x minority, don't speak", coming from people who are not x minority.
Allies have a great position to educate people, but they (we) gotta get off of our high horse first.
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One thing I've noticed on TikTok that I can't stand -- someone will ask OP a question in the comments, and someone ELSE will respond "just google it," "it's not their job to educate you," etc. If OP doesn't want to respond, they won't! Why is it your responsibility as a stranger to tell another stranger not to ask questions? Great video, btw!
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When I was in middle school and asked questions about the LGBTQ community, my friends would tell me things like āI donāt try to get involved in your church stuff, so donāt try to get involved in my stuff.ā (Iām a Christian). Because of this, I only ever asked my parents (bad idea), which only gave me one world view. I decided I wanted more info, so I went to Google. At the time, the majority of things that popped up were homophobic, and the same goes for YouTube. Because of this, I became very homophobic and transphobic for a few years, as well as more alt-right overall. The only reason I got out of it was because I was forced to confront my own sexuality, and when I decided to try to look at a new worldview, I realized how long I was. The only reason I found the other worldview was due to non-activists using their platforms to answer questions about their identities, as well as the occasional person in a comment section who would actually talk to me and give me resources to learn more (that werenāt the FOX News and alt-right people I was used to looking at). It is for this reason why anytime someone asks me a question about the LGBTQ community, I try to answer the best I can. If I donāt know the answer, Iāll try my best to find it out for them and show them how I found the answer. Iām happy someone has decided to talk about ājust Google itā activism, because that is what drove me into alt-right spaces (and unintentionally drove me to hate myself for years). Obviously, as laid out in the video, itās not fair to tell people to be a voice for the whole group; thatās a lot of pressure and can be triggering, but I think that some of us should step up and answer questions when we have the time ESPECIALLY if itās someone we know (like a family member or friend, or even a classmate in my case). Again, that doesnāt mean that everyone should do that all the time, it just means that if you have a second, maybe try to answer a question or two you see in a comment section.
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A language barrier between people can also be problematic at times. For example when the discussion is about gender neutral pronouns. In a lot of languages there is simply no gender neutral singular person pronouns such as they/ them. So if you tell a native Italian speaker to do their research on Google they may only find English sources or less information on Italian websites.
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I've been in this strange position before where it seemed like someone had read so often that "Google is free"/"not my job" that they felt uncomfortable asking questions when they were welcome to.
I came out as nonbinary and an aunt DMd me like "oh cool, I love you, I'm gonna do some research on this" and I was like "I'm fully comfortable answering your questions. I'm happy to clear up any confusion" and she was kind of like "I'm a little confused but I shall be educating myself!"
And I was there like. But the best answers about what this means for me are going to come from me.
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This topic is really tricky, the one example that stands out to me in my experience is sex education, specifically for lesbians. As a young 19 yo virgin lesbian, a couple of years ago I had lot of questions about how it worked, how to protect myself and my potencial partners in the future. Of course when I was younger I clicked Q&A videos of lesbian youtubers trying to answer my questions, because the internet was my only safe place. But those videos werenĀ“t really helpful because they were dodging questions of strangers who were just asking them really intimate questions, and the answers were really vague or they would just end in "google it". The problem was that googling it led to lesbian porn, but at the same time the online lesbian community was saying that "lesbian porn" was made for men. It was really confusing, I understood they didn't want to share those intimate questions, but googling those wasn't helpful either.
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I had a friend who for years would say things that were borderline homophobic, but I always felt too tired to actually educate them on the subject because I felt like I could give them too much or too little information for them. But, one day, I think I had enough of the "but you don't look gay" comments and I sent them a literal 2-hour playlist of YouTube videos that helped me out when I was starting out.
They came out as Asexual last week and apologized for their comments.
Edit: for the people asking, Iām sure itās in my profile as a public playlist. It also includes a video by the infamous Lilly Orchard (who I largely disagree with) but as a trans woman I did think she had some interesting things that were worth at least hearing and she has exactly 1 video in this.
Some of the videos are dated and some terminology is a little old, but it can cover almost all foundations to getting started.
Godspeed.
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In my school in Australia, my year level confronted the history department over their focus on white struggles when we learnt about Australiaās colonisation three years ago. We asked them to focus more on indigenous experience and black Australian history. They apologised profusely and changed the course for future years but in terms of our missed education on the matter we were told āitās not our job to educate you, you have a duty to educate yourself.ā
Which I understand given the circumstance. But also when schools are telling children itās not their job to educate them and to just google social issuesā¦ it doesnāt sit right.
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@EduardoHerrera-fr6bd
2 years ago
"always fact-check stuff you disagree with, but those you agree with, fact-check them TWICE" yes
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