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I am so glad you're back with a new lecture.
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What an extra pleasure it is to open YouTube and see a new video from you. My Friday morning is made.
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That was interesting - I'd previously assumed that the franking meant that Sir Thomas, a wealthy man, would be paying for the postage up-front, as it were. I didn't realise free postage (for certain things) was a perk of being a parliamentarian. Thanks for the insight.
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Fanny is such an insightful woman and so many people, even the readers, tend to brush her aside because she's introverted and seemingly passive.
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How wonderful to listen to your insights again - have missed them very much - thank you :)
I love to pounce on any random word in MP and tease some meaning out - so I would like to draw your attention to not one but two shawls:
When William comes for a visit after seven years at sea, he regales the family by 'describing any of the imminent hazards, or terrific scenes, which such a period at sea must supply... in the course of seven years had known every variety of danger which sea and war together could offer.'. His recitals excite a wide degree of sensations in his listeners: fear, envy, admiration.
It is Lady Bertram who sums it all up with, “Dear me! how disagreeable! I wonder anybody can ever go to sea.”.
Despite these death-defying stories of danger and hardship, her solipsistic nature sees only opportunity.
Sparing no thought for William's perilous posting to India, she knows what is truly important: 'Fanny, William must not forget my shawl if he goes to the East Indies; and I shall give him a commission for anything else that is worth having. I wish he may go to the East Indies, that I may have my shawl. I think I will have two shawls, Fanny.”.
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How wonderful to see you back. Your older recordings are well worth rewatching but it's so nice to have a new one. Thank you!
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I love your analyses and as a both Jane Austen buff and a history buff, found the info on the postal system very interesting. Thank you for the work that you do, really brings new insights!
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Someone else here has commented on the possibility that, as an emotionally abused child, Fanny was suffering from what we now call complex PTSD. The marvel is that Jane Austen was able to describe the impact on Fanny's personality of being taken from her home at age 10 and placed with another family whom she didn't know and who mostly treated her with indifference or actual verbal abuse, which she was in no position to respond to. Ten years is considered by some to be the worst possible age to lost a parent (never mind both). Many details are so perfect, such as Fanny's tendency to love Lady Bertram beyond her merits, simply because she wasn't Mrs Norris, who constantly bullies her. Psychologists know that a child who is bullied by one parent, tends to put the other parent on a pedestal. Another result of child abuse can be that the child grows up unable to fully control her emotions, and we see this when Fanny cannot control her almost hysterical response to Sir Thomas's reprimands and quite frankly verbal abuse when she turns down Henry Crawford's proposal. Could Jane Austen possibly have worked all this out based on observation alone? Some child victims of CPTSD grow up to be rebels in their teenage years, in a desperate attempt to protect their identity, and we do see a little of this in Fanny in her refusal to take part in the play Lovers' Vows. She is a covert rebel. The uncontrollable crush on Edmund might also be seen as a result of child abuse, as those who too easily develop this affliction are known to come from 'dysfuntional' families.
Now, if ever there was a dysfuntional family it is certainly the Bertrams.
Mansfield Park is a masterclass on the damage done to children by a neglected, morally dubious and (in Fanny's case) abusive childhood. In that sense it is a modern novel. The fact that both Sir Thomas and Mrs Norris present themselves and perhaps think of themselves as upright and moral pillars of the family and society in general, is testament to Jane Austen's endless genius as a writier.
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This is all so interesting - I had no idea about these little details of life in this period, like how the postage system worked. It's amazing how many details that readers of the period would have taken for granted as being understood completely go over our heads as modern readers.
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Thank you for posting. With all the anger and vitriol on social media, I appreciate the edifying nature of this channel. Reminds me of the better literature classes in university. God bless!
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Thank you for pointing out the fascinating detail of the franking. I had not realised the implications. Re other examples of the Bertram’s abuse of power, to me the answer is the way they, and Mrs Norris, treat Fanny.
Fanny is the messenger, the fetcher and carrier, the unpaid lady’s companion who is always expected to know her place. To the detractors of Fanny I would say- look at the way she is treated. She is a poor and dependent relative. No wonder she is overly cautious and appears timid. Yet that to me makes her even more courageous- she speaks out when it really counts- on the matter of the theatricals and more especially on Henry Crawford’s proposal. And Sir Thomas punishes her by banishment- the ultimate use of his power.
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Ah! Interesting. This also gives a clue to Mr Palmer's character in Sense and Sensibility, when his wife complains that he will not frank for her. He likes to be cranky and selfish for fashion's sake, but all of his actions show him to be a man of integrity.
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My appreciation of the Mansfield Park escalated when I read someone suggesting that Fanny's personality takes on another dimension when you consider her as a victim of abuse... cf her being yoinked out of her family at a young age, the bullying by Mrs Norris and the complete lack of interest by anyone other than Edmund... I'd always rated the book as one of my favourites of Austen's, but that really added to my sympathy with the portrait of Fanny in the novel.
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Interesting. In Sense and Sensibility, Mrs Palmer says that Mr Palmer has said he would refuse to frank for her. It made it sound like something a lot of MPs did even if it technically was against the rules. It seemed really more that Mr Palmer was just being disagreeable to his wife than that he really care one way or the other about the rules.
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Always a good day when Dr. Octavia Cox uploads a new video! I just went to a lecture about Jane and Bath so this is extra well timed from my pov.
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Thank you for this - super interesting! By pure coincidence I just listened to this chapter of Mansfield Park yesterday and noticed this detail, but was unaware of the nuances of "franking". I had assumed it meant that Sir Thomas was pre-paying the postage for William, and that it was a simple, generous gesture. This offers so much more about Sir Thomas and the Bertrams in general. I love it!
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Thanks for the brilliant analysis!
Yes, on the face of it, Sir Thomas is a model of respectability, but these little details undermine this image.
Another subtle example, is when Sir Thomas wants to send Fanny to live with Mrs. Norris, after Mr. Norris' death. Austen carefully details his thoughts and motives, one of them is to save money. And this is coming from a Rich plantation owner, at the same time his eldest son throws away a fortune on gambling... "I blush for you, Tom..."😂
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Thank you for this. I love noticing little details like this - one that has struck me forcibly as that when Mrs Norris address her sister she calls her 'Lady Bertram'. Compare this with the Bennet sisters, who always use first names. I don't think it's just attributable to Mrs Norris being older, it's an insight into how she values rank and wealth more than family affection.
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A fascinating detail that sheds light on Sir Thomas' character. He so often casts himself as the "moral backbone" of the household (at least as regards discipline and obedience) that little cracks like these speak volumes. I love the very subtle way that Austen drops little signs of Bertram's hypocrisy throughout the story (biggest example: his participation in the slave trade). It leaves readers wondering how most of his children could possibly "turn out so badly" (according to the standards of the day), until we look back on the little clues that were there all along. I feel like I used to blame most of the bad upbringing on the maternal figures. Mrs Norris was actively destructive and Lady Bertram unbearably passive. But here we see that Austen is not letting the father off the hook. He may seem upright, but all along he is forcing good behaviour out of his children them with fear tactics, while simultaneously teaching them to misuse their privilege and take what more than their fair share.
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Thank you very much indeed for watching my channel. Can you think of any other seemingly tiny examples from Mansfield Park that expose, perhaps, the abuse of power by the Bertrams?
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