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Top Comments of this video!! :3
Thank you. I am a 73 years old amateur composer (I started when I was 64) and this video has helped me enormousley. Especially your notion of using improvisation as a mining expedition.
Many thanks and greetings from Finland.πππ
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Writing a 16 bar chord progression was the best thing I ever did in my life.
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As a musician who has spent the last 15 years or so languishing in the 4-8 bar loop hell, thank you for trying to save others from this creative purgatory.
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I am a classically trained bassoonist, and a jazz saxophone player, along with guitar for fun and various other hobby instruments. Got my bachelor's degree in music 9 years ago and have found myself stuck in the 4-bar loop rut for years inside my DAW. Recently I've made it a point to map out, at least roughly, the different elements of a track before fully fleshing out the "drop" or the "chorus", etc. I have this horrible tendency to start with the main part of the song and then scrutinize every little minute detail of those 4-16 bars until I'm sick of hearing it and realize I don't have a song nor a vision for one anymore.
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my advice for people who can't escape the loop would be: don't be scared of something that doesn't immediatly sound great. just sketch out all of your ideas and refine them when the time has come. you'll notice when that is
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that introduction was the most relatable thing i've heard in my 6 yrs of producing stuff
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that piano example was amazing
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As an amateur music creator, who still has a lot to learn with my instrumental skills and production, this video has been incredibly helpful. Itβs easy to get lost in production and forget about the direction Iβm trying to go in, and this video really inspired me at a low point π
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I've been writing music professionally for almost 20 years and my number one tip is to use anything you just come up with. My (in my opinion) best music comes from singing random stuff when I do something completely unrelated like cleaning, making food, walking the dog etc. Just record it on your phone, even if it's stupid. And then visualize (if you can) in your head how the drums go, how the bass line works with the beat and add stuff from there. Don't rush it though, because often you keep getting stuck. Make sure you have at least a line for a chorus or a verse and usually everything just falls into place.
One of my songs landed on the Japanese billboard and it started out with the line (translated from Swedish to English) "your parents are brilliant at convincing you that they loved you while you were wearing bracers".
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I got stuck in the 4 bar loop for years and still do at times, but I've found that improving my understanding of music theory and working from the perspective of arrangement has helped break out of that habit. I will basically take a synthesizer vst (or a piano vst) and create a song in MIDI before doing anything else. So if I don't have a song that has a beginning, middle, and end then it's either keep trying to scrap it and start again. The hardest part is creating a melody and harmony that either leads into a chorus (or drop) or creating a melody and harmony that takes you out of the chorus (or drop). So now I try to think in a linear fashion from start to finish focusing on melody and harmony instead of thinking in terms of depth and creating a 4 bar loop with tons of layers and a repetitive melody or chord progression. The problem with the world of electronic music is people tend to learn about EQ and Compression before they learn about actual music - rhythm, harmony, melody, counter-melody etc. I made that mistake and now I'm really good at mixing but suck at creating actual interesting music.
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Trap and Hip Hop Producer here. Who is also a classical pianist from a young age. And this is exactly what I needed right now.
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I learned how to make music on youtube via FL Studio tutorials starting 15 years ago. This is one of the first videos regarding music I have watched in many years that didn't feel introductory or shallow. You didn't insult the viewers intelligence and you recognize that different musicians approach things in different ways. You introduce a concept via narration and then immediately perform a demonstration to communicate with musicians who lack the composition vocabulary to engage with the spoken content. You didnt flex gear or name drop or grandstand. You'd think I would love music youtube considering my background but beyond a certain level of music experience finding engaging content becomes near impossible. Im glad I stumbled into this video!
Subbed! i rlly look forward to what you post next
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Thank you for this essay. The Q+A analogy really opens up things for me - it's really a beautiful abstraction that embraces not only things like song structure (AABA etc), but also things like changes in dynamic, texture and other building blocks. I feel really inspired - thank you!
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"It's that idea about giving someone a fish vs teaching them how to make their own fish idea" LOL. Amazing. Not only did you provide lots of fantastic musical inspiration and direction, but the dry jokes were on point. Thank you Jameson!
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Yes, please more content about composition. Very interesting to understand how a classically trained pianist compose electronic music.
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This concept of "question and answer" structuring is also called "binary structuring" and "periods." It's the cornerstone of great songwriting and I learned a lot of valuable information from the book "How Music Really Works" by Wayne Chase
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Okay, rewatching this one already. It's fantastic. It fulfills a real gap in the synth community - addressing composition, not from a purely musical theory boring approach, but in the sense of taking an idea from an initial strong loop or segment and actually taking it that next step. No one is really talking about this, but it's what makes something like your track "Could" so great. It's not just a nice repeated jam where you open and close the filter on your synth. You actually composed something.
The biggest obstacle - this is work. Most of us have day jobs, use synths to relax. And yet if we really want to express ourselves, we have to do this work.
Do you find it to be effortful as well, or does the composition process also feel as playful as the initial idea? Do we just have to grind our way through it or is there a way to breathe excitement into it?
Can't wait to see where you go with this.
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Totally agree. Too many options tear your music apart. It stops to be musical, it starts to be more technical and leads you to nowhere. Eventually I return to a pencil, a paper and piano sound.
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Me again - your new sub. Love the dry humour in your videos.
And yes more on composition philosophy. I think that's what's missing in a lot of electronic music. I watch videos of folks who mastered their DAW, know intricate details of sound design etc, but when checking out their music, it doesn't connect. That's where the tried and tested musical theories come in, as you said. Storytelling with music.
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@GhostSamaritan
1 year ago
I have a bunch of techniques to escape loop hell: - Improvise on top of the whole song and keep/improve parts that fit! - Hum melodies on top of the whole song! - Mix patterns with various lengths! Don't avoid odd lengths! They'll simply loop over a longer time. - Stand up and move to the beat while working! This one probably makes the biggest difference.
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