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Life too short for long YouTube videos? Please see the āInteresting bits and go-to sectionsā information below.
Welcome to the show! Yes, regular viewers will know that Dan and I approach direct guitar tones (those that donāt involve a guitar amp and speaker) with some considerable caution. The thought of giving up our beloved amps, speakers (and volume purely) for convenience and practicality is still one that fills us with trepidatious fear and foreboding.
However. This is reality for a lot of people, either by choice or necessity and thusly every once in a while weāll dip our toes back into the direct water to see if it's any warmer.
This video was prompted by me (Mick here, hello) helping a mate just recently who made the complete direct transition a few years back with an all-in-one modeller, but now wants to return to a traditional analogue pedalboard with an amp and speaker solution on board. So here we areā¦
Please note. This video is NOT about all the various one-box digital solutions. Itās about augmenting your existing traditional board to go amp-less.
And yes, we know there are other products of this type out there. We donāt own everything in the world, sadly. These are the ones we do.
Enjoy the video!
Pedals & stuff in this episodeā¦
ā¢ TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
ā¢ Sonic Research ST-200 Turbo Tuner
Australia: bit.ly/2mR1s8c
ā¢ Keeley Filaments
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ā¢ Nobels ODR-1
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2IIR2Wn
Australia: bit.ly/3BoLto6
USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/0Joma3
ā¢ Strymon Volante
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2GqJ6Iw
Australia: bit.ly/2Ie0UZe
USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/DVOvXa
ā¢ MXR 10-Band EQ
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2iCCuw7
Australia: bit.ly/2Yx95Wz
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/30SERkI
ā¢ Union Tube & Transistor LAB
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2LJARtG
ā¢ Strymon Iridium
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2qEAlnA
Australia: bit.ly/36XmmKq
USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/e4eLVX
ā¢ Neunaber Iconoclast
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2Z5Rate
Australia: bit.ly/3oLFuV5
ā¢ DSM & Humboldt Simplifier
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3cpCS9U
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3l3cmYp
ā¢ Rockman by Tom Scholtz X100
No longer made
ā¢ TheGigRig G3
www.thegigrig.com/g3
ā¢ Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III 1x12 combo (links for version IV)
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3cpCS9U
USA: imp.i114863.net/0JyvLE
ā¢ ElectroVoice EKX-12P Powered speaker cab
* Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
Interesting bits and go-to sectionsā¦
0:00 Intro & playing
3:33 Why are we doing this?
4:25 Mick's done this recently
6:00 We're not talking about Helix etc
8:35 Guitar direct to FRFR
9:10 Strymon Iridium
11:18 Iridium 'Room' control
11:45 Nobels ODR-1 & Iridium
13:48 Keeley Filaments & Iridium
16:00 Neunaber Iconoclast
19:49 Iconoclast & Filaments
20:30 Hot Rod Deluxe & Filaments
23:00 DSM & Humboldt Simplifier intro
24:40 Simplifier sounds
26:50 More gain from the Simplifier
28:20 This is the actual problem
30:15 Mick plays the Simplifier
34:05 Hot Rod Deluxe again
39:20 EQ pedal & compressor?
46:10 Rockman X100!
49:00 Closing thoughts
Guitars in this episode:
ā¢ Fender Custom Shop ā63 Telecaster ā Danās video here: Ā Ā Ā ā¢Ā ThatĀ PedalĀ ShowĀ āĀ OurĀ GuitarsĀ &Ā Gear:...Ā Ā
ā¢ Fender American Vintage ā62 Stratocaster ā Mickās video here: bit.ly/2qVOTyJ
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Top Comments of this video!! :3
I also think it is worth mentioning that, for some of us, this isnāt about compromise. Iāve personally never found the magic that you guys feel when playing tube amps loud. So, for me, this gear is just making it easier to do what Iāve always wanted to.
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In my experience, when you turn down even real amps to the volumes that thousands of bedroom players like myself have to abide by on a daily basis, the differences between amps and modeling is minimal. Actually, a well dialed in direct rig sounds better to me than a tube amp that is barely breathing. The best of both worlds is an amp through a load box. Thanks for this episode and covering all that ā¦even though Dan is trying to be a good sport! LOL
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Before watching let me just say thank you. This is the episode I've been waiting for. As a dad with kids, a full time job and more on my plate, playing through my amps is almost never possible.
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I appreciate you guys acknowledging that this is a reality for some of us. Because of circumstances, I canāt get a live amp at the moment. During the pandemic I had to sell my Supro and I regret it, but you know, lack of consistent gigging means I had to let it go for other things. These direct in solutions arenāt the best but they help in the mean time until gigs start getting going and I can earn the funds to get another. All that just to say, sometimes itās out of necessity. And then you want what you have to be sound good. Oh well
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The one thing you guys seem to miss when talking about direct sounds is their role as recording solution, not a live one. Aside from quiet stages / worship, both historically (prince, nile rodgers, beatles, david bowie, pink floyd, led zeppelin) and in modern times these are tools in the studio more so than the stage. How come no discussion of Dan's home recording rig with the iso room where there is no interaction either, thats the better comparison. but again my bias is I am coming from a production side of things not a band musician playing shows.
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I feel that this video showed the honest strengths and weaknesses of both the techologies and reviewers, so made this a highly sincere and useful review. Many reviewers would not allow their vulnerabilities to come out so clearly, and here that truly adds useful context to their perspectives. Subscribed!
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I don't use it live, but I have to say the simplifier has made my apartment dwelling guitar playing experience much, much happier. You can ride the volume knob into the front with satisfying results, and it responds extremely well to OD pedals. I would also recommend running a stereo reverb in the loop.
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28:25 couldn't agree with Dan more! I have the Simplifier and love it, like really, really love it and I use it for a specific purpose which it excels at. I use it for streaming my noodling on the internet, also for rehearsals at home because it has an Aux in. For me it really is a hard-to-replace tool.
Just to speak on playing loud, I had a really interesting experience the other week at a gig (metal gig for clarification). First band was using an older Marshall in a 4x12 - sounded ok. Second band used a Marshal JCM800 into his 4x12 - sounded a bit better. Next up was me with a Quilter Overdrive 200 and, being a bit cheeky, plugged into both of their 4x12 cabs as they were side by side. Sounded big, sounded good - guitarist from the first band was checking it out and was blown away at how big it sounded (hear that a lot about the Quilter). Fourth band used Helix and sounded meh, nothing impressive. Fifth band used little Mooer GE pedals into EXH 44 Magnums into the 4x12 cabs and sounded bloody awesome, like proper good because they'd taken the time to dial in the settings and get good sounds. So in conclusion the gear is one thing, but learning how to get the absolute best out of whatever you're using is the single most important part of a good sound. I think it's also worth mentioning that not all guitarists know the difference between a good sound and "that'll do", obviously that's subjective, but their focus is on writing or performing rather than being a tone junky.
Also at 47:40 you're making me happy with that sound!!! haha that was amazing.
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Really happy yāall did this video as itās a common issue for me and why I switched over to Fractal years ago. Would love to see a V2 of this where you use a preamp pedal into an IR loader like the Cab M+ or something along those lines. Great playing and info as always guys!!!
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I am so happy you are āintroducingā the Iconoclast to the greater public. Waking from a dream and working on an idea with headphones is how I use it. Explore itās dual channel inputs, wet-dry, etc.
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Thanks guys for an honest open minded thoughts process for those of us who are either self inflicted or otherwise trapped with rules. Iām currently admits a new pedalboard trying to balance the non and pro DSP side of things with the option of adding an amp. I will failā¦ but I will try! I think the comment below about the bedroom player and turning real amps down nails the issue perfectly. Thanks!
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Great to know my old time tested approach beats modern pedals. I run my pedal board into an Award Sessions JD-10 for cleans and an original SansAmp for Marshall/Mesa tones. The secret is a parametric EQ after the modelers to cut frequencies with surgical precision. I cut lows sub 120hz, mids around 600hz and highs around 7-12k to cut fizz. Then I feed it into a Mooer Radar cab sim.
Iāve recorded and gigged happily for years. I only added the Mooer recently. I canāt imagine using a wedge like you though. Iām always in stereo in IEMās or headphones. The front of house tone at sound checks always sounds great though. My direct rig and amp rig sound nearly identical when recorded.
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I'm with you guys and am biased too. I'm sure you can get these boxes to sound very good and understand how practical they are, but as well as hearing the amp I can actually feel it. Maybe I'm on the way to becoming obsolete but part of playing the guitar is my relationship with the amp.
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Great great episode. I have the dlx and one thing to note, as with the regular simplifier, is it does allow you the best of both worlds - direct to FOH sounds/silent practice & recording, but also trs out simultaneously to your amps on stage (with power amp/cab bypassed). Run your wet effects in the fx loop and you can treat it as a great preamp pedal on stage (for feel) with the added direct out options for FOH (for ease and efficiency).
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This video made me realise how much I value seeing an enthusiastic and happy Dan every week!
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During and after lockdown I sold off my amp as it was too loud for my room & had no where to take it. Replaced with an HX Stomp, put it on my pedalboard and honestly, it's made practice and setup for gigs a whole lot easier. Perfect for a part-time player that occasionally plays live.
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I'm really liking the DSM & Humboldt Simplifier. I use it to be able to rehearse with headphones when I'm not able to play a loud tube amp and then I also use it to record with directly into my DAW - so easy and sounds great. You might not be able to mic your amp or just want to do a quick recording session. I can nothing but recommend it. Awesome vid, guys! Cheers
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I have watched so many reviews on the simplifier and you guys are the first to show/say to the audience what it is being plugged into. Thanks for letting me know these are meant for FRFR speakers. Iām in the market for an amp and canāt seem to decide what way to go these days so the simplifier caught my attention. Very informative and helpful video. You guys are the best! Much love! Cheers from the other side of the pond!
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I know this was not an easy episode for you guys, in an ideal world none of this would be necessary.
But on behalf of modern live electric guitar playing, thank you for showing the better (and simpler) options out there available to all of us
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@LongGrassStudios
2 years ago
What people donāt talk about enough is consistency. With a direct option you sound roughly the same at every venue. Iām in a covers band at the mercy of the house sound guy, and once I found him with a mic on the baffle instead of the cab. Going direct makes a 1 minute sound check doable and the audience has a good time. For me thatās worth the compromise.
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