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Date of upload: Sep 23, 2023 ^^
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The talk was amazing while it lasted. It's bad practice and even disrespectful to viewers to make us watch/listen for 15 min and then not get the payoff. The effect was not of a cliffhanger, but rather of a 'catch', and the emotions associated with this experience are likely not conducive to converting customers. Please do tell us about subscriptions for exclusive content, but if you share something, please give us a dish we can eat, then we can make our minds if we want the full banquet. Nevertheless thank you for the quality of the ideas and calibre of the speaker.
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From a philosophical point of view.
Descartes said "I think therefor I am" and Socrates said "I know only one thing and that is that I know nothing". Basically they are saying the same thing; That the one thing you are 100% sure of is that you have a conscious experience. Everything else (the physical world) could be a a dream. The only thing we do is process information but how can we be sure of where that information comes from?
If there is no consciousness then the physical universe has nothing to project onto. It is only the mind that differentiates within a clump of matter and in that way creates different numbers. Without it the universe would be just one thing (absolute nothingness). There would be no space and time to measure and no person that can assume it exists.
To me it is more plausible that consciousness is more real then objective reality and that it is transcendental. It is superior because all physical matter can be grasped into an idea but not every idea can be manifested into physical reality.
I believe the question of consciousness and free will can never be answered through modern science, because science reduces everything to data. We can measure brain activity, but not conscious experience.
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The whole argument boils down to a misconception of what free will is. He seems to think free will is possible via any kind of nondeterminism. He thinks Brownian motion is the candidate but it only takes a few seconds of thought to realise that random processes can't explain how a conscious being is able to make a choice either. It's more than just indeterminacy that's required. Free will requires some kind of transcendental force that is able to willfully choose one outcome out of a number of different outcomes. Randomness implies the complete opposite. If he really wanted to appeal to uncertainty then i'm not sure why he didn't just invoke quantum uncertainty, which is based on fundamental and true randomness (this still wouldn't explain free will)
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Before arguing for free will one needs to be very clear about what it is. Most who don't think we have free will do think we make choices. The question is how could we have selected the options we did not select? Is it ultimately a matter of fortune, good or bad, which option we did select? If the answer to that is yes, then we don't have free will.
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either you fetch a criteria from within experience, or you fetch a criteria from outside experience, and if its outside experience its unrelated to who you are, what you feel and your thought process, so how can you ever hope to create a gap between what it is like to make a false choice and make a "real choice", i have no idea what it even means to suggest, and someone needs to tell me what it is, as far as i can see its impossible, so if free will actually means anything it has to be about the content of experience and thereby be compatible with all your choices being false choices.
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This is a dirty trick. I watched this video and got very interested, only to have it end and be continued elsewhere with a pay wall. And I don't understand why many others here don't complain. Are all comments here from people who saw only half the lecture? Don't these people realize they didn't get Noble's full argument? How can they make so many comments on half an argument? Do they realize it's only half the argument? Baffling.
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There is predeterminism through the desired or expected result, when you act positively, responsibly and intelligently through improvement through trained awareness. When you are chaotic and less conscious, there is determinism, but not free will, which at the level of predeterminism is absolute. I understand why certain people have the impression that there is determinism or predeterminism, because they are poor at the level of emotional awareness, they are poor in emotional intelligence, in positive and intelligent emotions and feelings. So the fact that we declare something does not show us the path to follow or the one that is understood to identify a reality, this is the logic of determinism, while the logic of free will presupposes an increasingly advanced connection with one's own but also the relational capacity to become aware and in this way we can have the power of optimal and high understanding of our own or the common reality through the compatibility of the respective level. So there is clearly free will and the "explanations" that the simple statement of the cause-effect phenomenon does not say and will never say anything logical. It is about compatibility with positive and negative actions through determinism, but it reinforces the idea of free will as an expected result, as power. Simply put, only as something less conscious and less trained, there is determinism and predeterminism, i.e. the robot. There is an existential training exercise of reality awareness that many leave to chance. That's the only way you reach a high level like divinity, a similar kind of compatibility. The idea is that intelligence represents the ability to retain information and recognize patterns, but also emotion and feelings, that's the only way you're complete, otherwise you're insufficiently evolved or with a potential still untapped. For this reason, the strong inner imagination is greatly enhanced by the environment through feelings and emotions. Otherwise, we have intelligent people, but just as it is specific to artificial intelligence to reproduce, but not to understand and without strong internal imagination and capitalized by the external environment. For this reason, our perception and understanding of intelligence and consciousness is wrong. We live more in a world of appearances and less honorable. Of course we have enough compromises and there is also adaptation, but not enough to create a strong and authentic reality. Adaptation only helps us to evolve, but not every adaptation is built for a qualitative path of evolution. Good has all the explanations regarding what is good or bad, evil only explains evil and uses good and that's it. But power belongs to good and obviously free will which represents awareness and the power to change things for the better and to choose the good and the happiness that fulfills us, that lasts and is great.
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Random processes don’t create Beethovens or Michelangelos. The reason why some scientists are still debating on the decisions vs determinism is because they refuse to admit that a mind is derived from an intelligent God.
Even if we could describe consciousness purely from genetics and neurons —the order found in these could only logically be explained by a random process.
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@LeeGee
7 months ago
Just as we were getting to the meat, I learnt that free videos are an illusion.
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