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Linus couldn’t wait to trade in his LG Wing for the new Fairphone 5! Ethically produced, sustainable, and easily repaired? What’s not to like? Well…
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00:00 Intro
1:23 It’s So Cool!
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seeing un bearded linus insponsor segments gives me chills
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To be fair, 90% of people put one sim card and a 128gb sdcard for the entire duration of owning the phone
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It is absolutely insane to even compare the repairability of cutting through adhesive (and don't forget to reapply it properly later) to just popping off the back cover. I can replace the USB C connector on my FP4 in under 5 minutes literally on the side of a road. When I was abroad my USB C connector broke and I simply express shipped a replacement, and when it arrived (pretty quickly) I was able to replace it in under 5 minutes with just a screwdriver. having an easily removable back is the difference between being able to DIY fix it on the road and having to buy a temporary phone (one that supports your SIM card, which is not trivial in some countries) and trying to limp along on it. I'll take the slightly thicker body (which I do not care about at all) and maybe not top of the line performance SoC if I have the power to literally fix nearly any easily breakable component of my phone on the go with minimal effort.
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8:40 its completely plausible for the phantom headphone to be a soldering defect.
The way headphone detection usually works is a physical switch that gets opened/closed when you insert the plug. This signal will be routed to some input pin (on the CPU, or maybe the amp chip or something) which controls where audio is routed.
On a phone without a headphone jack, this input will usually be connected to a resistor that forces the "no headphone" mode.
If that solder connection to the resistor is flaky, the value of the input may behave erratically.
As for why the issue goes away on reboot, the input is probably whats known as Schmitt triggering, which just means it requires the voltage signal to cross over a threshold before the input actually switches. This is quite common for preventing erratic switching if there is noise on the input. What you're probably seeing is a random spike of noise thats enough to flip the input to "headphone connected" mode, but the signal never dips back the other way far enough to switch back to "no headphone" mode. By rebooting the phone you reset the state of the input and the issue goes away.
Note that from a software perspective there's no reason why such an input pin needs to exist at all, obviously the mode could just be hard coded in software. It could be that they have prototypes or devboards that include a headphone jack. It could also have been more work to do this in software vs routing a resistor to a dummy input. Maybe they're using an upstream audio driver that needs such an input assigned to it, or maybe this code is shared with older Fairphones that still have a headphone jack.
EDIT: as pointed out by @AndrewStrydomBRP, hardware would be necessary to support USB-C audio accessory mode (passive USB-C to headphone jack dongles).
Conveniently Fairphone has schematics publicly available (wish Linus mentioned this), where we can see U2602 is an audio/USB2 switch that handles this functionality. Annoyingly the part number listed on the chip appears to be a Fairphone internal part, and they appear to have not provided a BOM like they did with the Fairphone 4 (very cringe). In any case, some googling leads me to believe it's probably an FSA4480, which has a CC_IN pin used to detect whether headphones (or a dongle) is detected, which is presumably where the issue is. For communicating this status upstream to the CPU there's a DET pin and also the I2C interface, not sure which is being used, but the DET pin could also be the issue if that's being used.
To Linus, it would be worth checking if the headphone issue can also be resolved by plugging in something into the USB port, like a charger via a C-C cable or a USB-C flash drive/dock, maybe in both orientations.
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In my opinion, the price is the biggest problem. And it probably cannot be cheaper.
But that's what certified ethically sourced materials get you.
And I think it would only be fair to note in EVERY other phone review, that the materials used are probably not ethically sourced, which is why it can be that cheap.
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I own a FairPhone 5, and I'm not bothered by its size or weight. But I can acknowledge some of the problems Linus described (the terrible auto-dimming for example, which is so annoying that I disabled it). Also, the battery drain is horrendous. I am really lucky if I can get by one day without charging it, and sometimes, even during the night, when the phone isn't used at all, the battery level drops significantly. I even switched from 90 to 60 Hz (something I don't care for anyway) and disabled 5G, which seemed to help a bit.
Here's one Linus didn't mention: On rare occasions (maybe once or twice a month) "ghost" touches begin to appear, in pretty quick succession, so much so that it's impossible to reboot the phone. It usually helps to just put the phone to sleep for a moment, but not every time, and then I remove the battery to force restart the phone. I've read online that it may also help to disassemble the phone and put it back together again... But what kind of advice is that? It's not complicated, sure, but who's to say that said disassembly will help or won't introduce other problems?
Also, the loading of certain apps takes ages. On the Fairphone, there are one or two where I saw the splash screen for the first time, as it took that long for them to load.
All in all, I have to say that on a technical level and daily usability the Fairphone is clearly a setback. The only reason I accept these problems is their mission and their promises of rather long software support. Had it been a regular phone I would have sent it back.
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The long press not presenting an uninstall is a vanilla Android thing starting at 14 I think, same with the Google search bar being permanently locked there. If they are using stock Android, that would explain those two 'pain points' you experienced. For me, as a Pixel user, I have long since grown accustomed to such things.
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2:30 I used to work at walmart around the photo center and have seen tons of sd cards corrupting due to the people not ejecting it in the settings before removing it. Android is outstandingly bad at handling file systems on removable drives. If you make it so you have to power off the phone in order to remove the card then this won't be as much of an issue.
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Had my FP5 since October. I didn't experience those audio issues. Though, the first week I've owned it, it did seem a bit fussy about actually transmitting audio through Bluetooth. But even without a software update, that behaviour just stopped.
The responsiveness and performance section of this video was very warranted though. But for a different reason. I use it at 90hz, and I really like it. But it feels like sometimes scrolling turns to jelly, and responsiveness worsens, until you toggle the refresh rate down to 60, then back up to 90 (or just toggle the battery saver, it does the same thing). I'm perfectly happy with it's overall day to day performance. But it feels like, every couple of days, it needs to cough up a hairball and be patted on the back, before everything is back to normal.
Now that this video is out, I really want to write a big fat review on the Fairphone forums, addressing what I do and don't disagree with from this review.
The TLDR, is that fairphone made me dislike stock android, and I gained an appreciation for all the MiUI and Samsung skins out there. How are so many options and features and fixes and quality of life things missing from stock android??? I'd genuinely love to see someone who has more time than me, slap lineage OS on the Fairphone, and daily it for a while, to see how much it is just android holding the FP5 back
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I don't consider changing the battery on a sealed back phone that's glued to the chassis the same as being able to hot swap a battery in a few seconds. The value add there isn't that you can replace the battery when its end of life. Its that you can replace it with a hot spare on the go and never be left with a flat battery. I used to carry a spare battery handy when I had an S4. Swapping it on the go was awesome.
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7:38 Isn't that just the vanilla android experience? My Pixel 7 does the same thing. To uninstall you need to drag it up, the uninstall option shows up then
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The difference in thickness can likely be attributed to the screen technology (OLED vs LCD) and the fact that the battery is a "hard-pack" battery. The Samsung has a "soft-pack" battery, which means it is not designed to be easily removed and kept elsewhere. Soft packs are easily damaged and are not designed to be removed and re-inserted. Phones only started to get slim when these types of batteries started to get used widely. All phones with removable batteries are thick. It's an unavoidable compromise.
On another note - I've worked for Android phone manufacturers before. A lot of the random software buginess will be down to their ODM and the fact that it's using stock Android, which almost no phone uses. We also used to have issues with minimum volume and dodgy screen brightness etc, but with enough effort these can be easily resolved in software. It's either not been tested properly, or they've prioritised fixing other larger bugs. The issue is they're likely paying someone else to do the software for them, and that gets expensive. They could fix it in a software update though. What they can't fix is the Google widget. This again comes back to the stock Android piece. Google mandates the placement and you can't change it.
A disagree with some of the other points. For example - Who cares if you have to turn the phone off to insert an SD card? How often are you going to removing and re-inserting one? Also, do you really care about bezels that much?
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side power button finger print sensors are the biggest thing i miss in phones. even if face id or in screen fingerprint sensors are instantaneous, i can have a phone with a side (or back) button fingerprint sensor on before its even out of my pocket simply by locating the button by feel
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"After removing the back, it's not that much harder to repair than the Note 5....other than using the isopropyl acohol to remove the adhesive..."
Uh yeah....
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I would love to see a follow up in lets say a whole or half a year to see what kind of changes they did to the software and or hardware to address the mentioned issues.
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Never understood the chase for ever-thinner phones. I am not advocating for Energizer Power Max thickness, but in general make phones thicker, if that means larger and/or replaceable batteries
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I'm still not happy that they removed the headphond jack.
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Yes. I desperately wanted to support their mission and I have low requirements. I experience a few bugs and I am quite happy.
The display brightness is smooth usually, but I too found a consistently jump between the lowest and next setting. And flipping between them sure will be annoying, although I never experienced that.
I am happy and looking forward to years of upgrades.
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10:31 sorry but that Note 5 battery change still looks like a royal pain in the behind for people not used to doing disassembly steps like this. I find that comment to be really misleading
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@AegrusYT
2 months ago
Only real unfair comparison I saw being made was the battery removal. Even as someone who likes to tinker around with my laptop/PC, removing the backplate with suction cups and getting the battery out are far, far more annoying and 'sketchy' than just popping off both like you can do with the Fairphone.
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