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The Great Liquidity Debate | Michael Howell & George Robertson on The Fed & Moneyprinting
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Michael Howell of Crossborder Capital and George Robertson of The Monetary Fronteir have two things in common: they both correctly predicted the renewed bull market in stocks and they both have been guests on The Forward Guidance podcast. That is where the similarities end, as Michael and George have entirely different explanations for what is driving the surge in equity prices. While Michael is renowned for his models on Global Liquidity and closely tracks the changes in central bank balance sheets (most notably the Fed’s), George dismisses the Fed entirely and thinks that monetary authorities have effectively zero influence on the economy and stock market. What ensues is a heated debate not just about what is driving the stock market and economy but about the very nature of money and credit creation itself. Recorded on April 10, 2024.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:32 Jack's Intro
02:28 Michael's Opening Statement
06:09 George's Opening Statement
18:17 The Draining of The Fed's Reverse Repo (RRP) Facility
24:59 VanEck Ad
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28:38 The Portfolio Rebalancing Theory (I.E. How Quantitative Easing (QE) Theoretically Works)
45:21 Duration Impact of U.S. Treasury Issuing Longer-Maturity Paper
51:39 Spread Between Agency Mortgage-Backed Securities (MBS) Yield And 10-Year Treasury Yield
01:12:09 There's A Distortion In The Yield Curve, That's For Sure"
01:17:47 Beyond The Fed's Balance Sheet
01:23:18 Jack's Comment On Cause And Effect
01:25:07 Views On Markets: George And Michael Remain Very Bullish

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Disclaimer: Nothing discussed on Forward Guidance should be considered as investment advice. Please always do your own research & speak to a financial advisor before thinking about, thinking about putting your money into these crazy markets.
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@BlockworksHQ

1 month ago

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@sarawilliam696

2 weeks ago

Investor skepticism surrounds the Fed's plan to maintain interest rates until inflation stabilizes. Personally, I'm unsure about investing $150k in my stock portfolio. I seek advice on the optimal strategy for navigating this market.

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@cats_ARE_better_than_you

1 month ago

Michael: Here's my thesis and supporting data George: Trust me bro

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@rtra3863

1 month ago

George=incoherent, inconsistent and contradictory Michael=well spoken, consistent and winning!

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@wayneatwell7039

1 month ago

At 11 minutes in I had no idea what George was talking about. Glad I checked the comments and saved myself 90 minutes. I have seen recent Howell interviews and know his thoughts, so not missing anything skipping the rest

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@wbltrack07

1 month ago

5 minutes in and George is making no sense. Not sure why he's invited on this pod

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@silverschmerz4261

1 month ago

George is that kid in class who forgot to read the book but has to give a book report in front of the class. "Yes, 'A Tale of Two Cities' was about, ummm, two cities. Yes. And ummm... they were really great cities. Awesome cities. Yea."

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@fabiodentamaro5941

1 month ago

Really difficult to understand George Robertson argumentations..

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1 month ago

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@badtaco2835

1 month ago

George is just as bad as he was in his first appearance

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@kameskettles7233

1 month ago

Damn Jack, love your show but George's rambling is brain numbing. Needed you to redirect.

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@tqbrowne

1 month ago

I gotta say, I’m more with Howell on this one. I really enjoyed this format as a fan of Howell and his work because it allowed for a bit of discovery into his process and assumptions. Thank you Jack and Blockworks!

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@Law-of-love

1 month ago

George- most typical example of American “pseudo-intelligence “ - (I know nothing but can talk a lot) I have ever experienced. 🤕 I am infinitely dumber for having wasted my time listening to any word salad he spewed 😢 Strange how anything George can’t understand - “ doesn’t exist” ! 😮

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@netizenkane2230

3 weeks ago

In the second part of the show, George, Michael, and Jack are saying the long end is discounted as part of Fed policy measures, which Michael is calling liquidity, while George has disagreed that this is a form of easing. Really good interview. The commenters saying that George doesn't make sense are not following his terminology. These are ex Solomon Bros. guys here people.

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@jayearl3591

1 month ago

Howell is the GOAT 🐐Would be great to see see a deflationist like Danielle DiMartino Booth or Hugh Hendry debate him

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@carlrakes8077

1 month ago

What is George saying!!?

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1 month ago

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@jvancek

1 month ago

George saying the federal reserve is required for democracy....all if his arguments are meaningless after that

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@troy8231

1 month ago

George was misrepresenting Michael’s positions and using other views as examples that aren’t even Michael’s. 🤨

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@iskundi8027

1 month ago

I will never be able to follow George’s logic

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