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Join David, Eric, and Nathan as they wander the ever-shifting halls of interpretation within the House of Leaves.
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This novel is so strange. I really appreciate the reading experience, but nothing deeper stays with me after I read it. Yet, I have returned to it and read it three times. Maybe the lack of center is what draws me in. There is a human desire to find meaning. That is what pulls people deeper into the House.
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I just finished the book and there is this weird feeling inside of me. Now I'm looking up all sorts of videos and forum pages talking about House of Leaves. I kinda feel like Johnny haha
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I approached this book, and the author's quote about it being "about" interpretation, like a David Lynch film. Like Lynch, I believe Danielewski did imbue meaning on purpose (he strikes me as too meticulous an author to do otherwise), and I believe Danielewski made specific connections within and between the narratives, but also like Lynch he doesn't want to guide the audience towards his own interpretations through his outside-the-book commentary but leave it up to us. He knows what he meant, but wants us to get there (or somewhere else entirely) on our own. All the ingredients we need to interpret and/or experience the story are there, but we're left to our own devices to determine how much of each ingredient we're including in our recipe, how long to cook it, what to serve it with. If I feel like the creator of a thing knows what's up, I never feel cheated, even if I'm the one missing something.
I fully understand why the made-up story about Johnny and the doctors felt like a slap in the face, but that sequence actually struck me as a pivotal insight into Johnny. He's more self-aware than we might think at first. He knows what it's going to take to sort himself out, but he can't, for whatever reason, implement it.
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YOU need to be in the right place to be able to appreciate this book.
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The Minotaur is interesting in itâs connection to the House. Both are described best by what they are not. The House is not a home. The Minotaur is not a monster.
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I really enjoyed reading this book but definitely think a lot of the charm for me was in the novelty of reading it and half way through realizing that I too was in the labyrinth. Im not sure I would pick it up again because you can only experience that once. If I do ever decide to read it again i think its likely I'll only read the parts describing the "films" narrative because those are the sections I enjoyed the most.
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Reading this instills a sense of discordant dread I feel only when I am lost in man-made labyrinths.
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I find it hilarious that the bit with Johnny's doctor friends actually fooled someone.
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I feel like reading the book without the videos and other ARG elements does a disservice to the story. The blurred line between storyteller, author, and story is largely lost without it. Whenever I introduce the book to people I always give them notes on how to follow along with the ARG elements as they read. Even if they can't follow like the original readers it's as close as you can get to the experience that made the book a cult classic.
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I'll say this: I get why you guys didn't appreciate this book much from a pure literary standpoint. However, I think it was built for a different medium. My evidence for this is how quickly it was picked up by the ARG community. A community that revels in compiling information and parsing truth to solve a mystery was more fascinated by this book than you guys were.
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Awesome review, I always enjoy long analysis of this deep book
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Just found you guys through Leaf by Leaf. So much amazing content. Thank you for making my summer here in Melbourne eventful! :)
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Great pod! I just recently turned a buddy on to the book and he legit has become Johnny Truant. He loves it! I think the âhorrorâ of the book isnât from the content of the navidson record (it can be if you hate psychics breaking endlessness) but rather the infinite ambiguity from everyone in the book. You never know who to trust or believe. The vapid nature of answers or really anything will turn people off, which I get, but MZDâs choice to not spoon feed and leave things ambiguous adds to the mysticism of the book. You (or at least I did) feel like youâre reading a mad journal crammed into the wall of an insane asylum. And on top of that, the meta involvement from the reader turning into Johnny is also super unique and cool. House of Leaves is a fun, choose your own adventure book that upends the medium of what a book really is. I really dug it even if isnât the most narratively satisfying read.
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I love this book but I think you all are way off on the interpretation.... could it have one author? Clearly ... yes ... the crux of this is the realization that the author is not Johnny, zampano, or pelafina ... the author is danielewski and if you take the time to look at him and why he wrote this then you understand that his interpretation is the only actual one that matters because this is one big maze that is at its core is an autobiography. The house is growing to symbolize the space between him and his family, primarily his father. He wrote this for his dad who scoffed at it and that draft was destroyed by danielewski and thrown away, later to be rescued and taped back together by his sister. If you research him then you can understand the book, he is really making the reader work far harder then speculated to be able to understand the point of the book.
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There is nothing at the end of the hallways or corridors to frame the story and it really works for me. Some people fucking hate it but all that critique for nothing makes sense thatâs art sometimes, most times. I went down all those rabbit holes to nothing and it truly boosted the experience.
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I'm wondering how many fans have mental illness in their vicinity, as for me the meta layers of HoL was so clear and Mark's voice as a game designer's voice, guiding me through the story via the narrators and the invisible hand that is design, learning me how to traverse the footnotes, only to get stuck in the neverending loop some hundred pages in, where you have to take agency as a reader and choose how to break the circle and progress the to the next cycle, like a scratched record of a Fighting Fantasy book you have to lift the needle but the next part isn't causally, linearly the next part.
Strongest for me was the first time the story really lost me, I'm a analytical and quite slow reader, doubly so as I'm not a native english speaker, but at a certain point Johnny totally interrupts Navidson (or maybe himself) so to totally go off the deep end in what is the first time I didn't feel I knew what the game was going on about, which some 7-8 pages into his cleary disturbed ramblings we're met with the socalled Editors, letting us know that Johnny rambling was somewhat lost on then as well but if the reader is up for breaching the natural flow of the pages of the book we can go several hundred pages into the book and read the whalestoe letters. This is akin to a game where after level 45 we get the chances to skip to level 900 but with no experience as to overcome what were met with, like facing Ganondorf without the master sword in the Zelda games.
If we have the courage to go that far, we find not something obscure and high leveled, not at first, but the very clearest voice the book has had yet.
We have to go outside the "main book" and into the appendices to find something tangible, the real reason johnny is disturbed, is growing up in his mother's illness, even when she is taken away she continues to be play a substantially part of Johnny's inner life. This is true even if the letters are a fabrication on Johnny's part, or it's Zampano doing a bad job of masquerading as a young man, vice versa, or as it ultimately is an, at least partial, fabrication on Danielewski's part.
After reading the whalestoe and returning to and rereading Johnny's rambling a strong sympathy was fostered to Johnny of course, but to Mark as well
Thanks for the ending, which somewhat made up for 1 hour of what was mostly platitudes
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I think i just find gold guys, loving this podcast.
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I want this to be a limited tv series. The book blew my mind 20 years ago and I've given it for gifts many times.
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Wonderful pod! I loved the book!
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@crvenom
3 years ago
Sometimes I'm sitting around and I begin to vividly imagine scenes of the Navidson Record... Then it hits me like a brick.. I've never seen it.
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