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We know a great deal about the Battle of Agincourt; but is what we know true? In this film Dr Toby Capwell responds to your comments from our first "Arrows V's Armour" film and expands on some of what we do and do not know about the battle. It is a legendary event in British history; up there with the defiance of the Blitz for those morale boosting and nation defining moments.
The battle of Agincourt has been depicted in plays, literature and films for generations. Each re-telling adding another layer to the myths, Laurence Olivier, Kenneth Branagh and most recently, 2019 The King, starring Timothée Chalamet.
The longbow was without doubt a massively important part of the victory, there is no question about that, but still we know relatively little about how it was deployed; why and how it proved so successful. These gaps in knowledge have allowed the mythology to grow and prosper: separate to hard fact.
In Medieval Myth Busting we try hard to show what we know to be true in an honest and open way and everything else is there to be discussed, by us and by you. Join in the comments, its good for us to all learn from each other.
Dr Tobias (Toby) Capwell, Arms and Armour Curator at the Wallace Collection in London
Tod Todeschini of todsworkshop.com/
Medieval Myth Busting all began with a film shooting a 160lbs English longbow at an accurately made breastplate and you can watch that film here • ARROWS vs ARMOUR - Medieval Myth Busting
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Top Comments of this video!! :3
This is the kind of content I'd expect to see on the BBC, History or Discovery channel. Unfortunately those channels are full of mostly rubbish nowadays.
Thanks Tod and everyone involved for the production of these Myth Busting videos. Superb work!
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It is so great to see a historian with a proper scientific attitude — both not hesitating to say «I don't know» or «I need to look into this further» and, at the same time, welcoming and encouraging the insights and experience that HEMA and reenactment bring. Great video, Tod & Toby (Tod & Tob?)!
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18:40 "It's all about making the enemy fight on your terms." Fantastic summary of Agincourt, and a statement for battles down the ages.
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This channel has become really excellent in the last year.
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How refreshing to have knowledgeable people sharing their science in a calm and structured way, treating their audience as adults. What a great channel!
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Hi Tod, when putting up temporary fencing for sheep or cows,here in the alps. We used an pointy iron bar to make the hole and just jammed the fence post in by hand afterwards. Held up fine. Whether one lugged around a wooden maul or iron bar, it had to be shared, and passed down the line. Not every archer needed to carry every tool. If you have a baggage train both tools would be available. Just a thought, greetings from Emmental.
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As someone who has done marquee erection with very large stakes, one option is they drove the sharp end into the ground to a good depth, wiggled them to loosen the stake, then withdrew them and put the blunt end in. It won't matter if the stake is slightly loose in the hole, it'll still hold. It might also be they had a shorter, specialist, hole-making stake that makes a hole, gets tapped lightly on the sides with a hammer to loosen it, gets withdrawn and used again, and you would only need one for any number of long stakes.
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Hmm so Henry was playing the tank during the Agincourt raid and aggro'ed the whole French army via taunting with his shiny armor :P
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I think its pretty obvious that archers simply carried large pencil sharpeners
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I'm not an academic historian my self, I just liked the medieval era since I was a kid and videos like this really help to become more knowledeable about the topic.
Thank you for making these highly educative videos, every time I watch a video I learn a lot.
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English Archers were not solely Archers, they were good Skirmishers too, very adaptable to changing battle conditions.
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A few weeks ago whilst visiting a friend in London I had a spare few hours and ended up going to the Wallace Collection specifically because of Toby's enthusiasm in the previous video on war bows vs plate armour; it fascinated me. And who should end up delivering a 'quick' talk on some Italian classic armour but the man himself. Needless to say it was fascinating and the bloke clearly knows his stuff. I did try to speak to him afterwards to thank him for fuelling my interest in Armour and its functionality but the poor man was lambasted by a perhaps over eager couple who took up almost as much of his time as his talk took. Anyway, if you read this Toby, thanks again. To anyone else, absolutely go check out the Wallace Collection. There are far greater treasures than armour and weaponry there.
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What I really liked about this discussion was the awareness that you have on the role you play in making archery and archery history accessible and relevant on a modern platform. These are things that one can read from historical sources and interpretations, without enough research and effort, but to present this to the mass audience who have that tingling curiosity to find out more about what really happened is a unique vision.
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This was amazing. I appreciate the time and effort that the participants put into creating this. I also appreciate how Tod stated that the ability to admit error is necessary in order to learn. Dr. Toby's comment which went something like "another great story destroyed by facts" was priceless.
I think the most important point for me was that the English victory was not solely due to their amazing longbow but rather to their knowledge of the French battle plan, their use of the terrain, and their ability to direct the French responses. I think there is a danger in believing that a weapon is the determining factor as people are easily seduced by technology when the use of intel, terrain and knowing how to force the enemy into a reactive mode are much more likely to determine the victor.
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I just absolutely love how respectful Tod is. You can tell he is extremely humble whenever he addresses a point in the discussion.
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I really like Toby's point at 21:40
I think wasting arrows would have been a big concern to armies in those days.
Arrows weren't cheap, and they had to be CARRIED by people or pack animals, taking up valuable space and weight.
The British army, just before WW1, had magazine cut-offs on their rifles. It was only by order of an officer that they were allowed to use their whole magazine for rapid fire. This was supposed to reduce ammo usage.
Logistics back then must have played an even more crucial role than they do now because of how difficult it must've been to move and coordinate.
But I'm not a historian of any kind! Just thought it was an interesting point!
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In one simple video these guys have instilled a burning curiousity for historical science. No extra drama required.
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Can't even remember how many times I've watched this, and continue to learn something new each time. Layers of insight from Toby Capwell, and great questions from Tod that capture what most people want to know. I'll probably watch this again in a month.
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Dear Todd,
This message is intended to contain an important point, and I hope You will find it worth considering.
As a fan - so to speak - of blunt trauma, I’d say that the weakest point on a body is usually neck and neck vertebrae; no armour can protect it much if at all; a blow with a warhammer or mace to the head need not damage the helmet at all and yet still resulting acceleration forces imparted to the brain stem, cerebellum and neck vertebrae are sufficient to knock the opponent out or indeed kill them.
Now Agincourt: if most archers shot as Joe does (and it seems to be the case, as You’ve discussed with Toby), and French marched in relatively tight formation, then vast majority of arrows would most likely hit heads, necks and shoulders... even without puncturing through the visor or breathing holes, repetitive hits to the head would have probably similar effect to a long-drawn boxing match: concussion from repetitive impact. Add to this slipping in mud and one can easily fall over (which can prove lethal). Worse still - when struggle to breathe or see, both of which can be attributed to repetitive blows to the head, one might even try in desperation to do the silly thing and lift the visor.
Test: I would STRONGLY suggest a head model with full protection - helmet, mail coif, padding - to be planted on an articulated short bar containing torsion meter. I would then proceed to fire a number of shots at it front, side and back. I’m pretty sure, that even without piercing the helmet, a lot of close range shots will deliver forces tantamount to a nasty blow to the head.
PS: Totally LOVE Your work! Kindest regards,
Jack
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